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#624256 12/28/22 05:06 PM
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Hi
My grandfather supposedly bought this gun from the Canadian department store Simpsons (later Simpsons Sears) Thanks to you guys I have figured out most of the marks on the gun, I would like to have help finding a date other than the generic 1898-1924 time frame. So far I have figured out that it is a belgium made 16ga and I have identified proof marks from one of the prior threads. Can anyone help me with an exact date, a manufacturer or a estimated value? Thanks Mearns
Bore and Choke 1898-1924 CHOKE 16.2
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PROOF MARKS d=70 d=70
18.9 19.0
Weight of Barrel after Smokeless Proof 1892-1924 P 1K360.8

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Side of the barrel says: "amtlich vierfach geprueft u. eingeschossen mit staerkster ladung rauchlosen pulvers" which translates: "officially quadruple examined and shot in with strongest load of smokeless powder"

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The way the chokes are illustrated on barrel can help with date.
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There may be a date code(letter) on barrel flats also that would give proof date.
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Okay that narrows it to 1910-1924 Getting narrower. Thanks Here is a better picture of the barrel flat.

https://ibb.co/cXQ8ctH

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The AOD in circle is the barrel guy or steel I can’t remember but will look. Others will let us know what that is just has slipped my mind. May be ACD acier cockerill dumoulin? Can’t remember.

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Amtlich Vierfach Geprüft und Eingeschossen mit Stärkster ladung Rauchlosen Pulvers

Czech version - Uredne Ctyrnasobne Zkousena a Nastrelena Nejsilnejsim Nabojem Bezdýmného Prachu

The text was just Belgian advertising assuring the end user that their cheap wares would withstand the National Proof Test of the end country. It was only used for a few years.

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Too, that diameter stamp was also only used for a short period.

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There are a few more marks on the rib valley between the barrels. These are spaced out 77 1 P S

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