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![[Linked Image from thumbs2.imgbox.com]](https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/13/e9/NQFYKcuI_t.jpg) Solely from the foto & the description, devoid of sideclips and Greener Crossbolt, and considering the serial number 6060, it must have been made prior to 1880 and was for a lower pressure Blackpowder cartridge. It is possible that Sauer sourced it elsewhere, so the serial number could lie with another maker? Serbus, Raimey rse
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Since the description mentioned it is nitro proofed it carries proof marks, so it must be post 1893.
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Either a reproof or they are mistaken on the >>Nitro<< and those ATM stamps or >>Nitro<< stamps may just put it circa 1910 or post 1912??? Possibly a proof effort on a pre-1893 DR??
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Even >>Vorrat<< stamps do not appear till 41xxx in the Sauer sequence.
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It is not clear whether 6060 is the serial number or some type "item" number from the auction house. Maybe someone will buy it and show the proof and other marks.
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Yeah Ford, for £600 plus $1200 U.S. of A. import costs, we could well know.
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Mike,
The 47mm case shortened from 11.15x60R is a good possibility but if it is marked 10,5 the nominal caliber would likely be 10.75x47R. This was a popular case in lengths from 43mm to over 60mm. Beside the MB case other possibilities are the M88/ Lancaster case, 450 and 500 base British cases, or Colath/similar cases; but in my opinion the 360 base case is too small to consider. This is why a chamber cast and bore slug is necessary to ID the caliber.
Mike
Last edited by Der Ami; 12/12/22 09:22 AM.
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If in doubt a cast is cheap and easy insurance.
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![[Linked Image from casimirlefaucheux.com]](https://casimirlefaucheux.com/uploads/default/original/1X/0afa066ed0756a773baf4338b9b91c539dff2e43.jpeg) And interestingly they also made ones marked 10.5: ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-VTwzjk9/0/3f6edd2b/L/i-VTwzjk9-L.jpg)
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