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#619331 09/14/22 07:28 AM
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I've been wondering about something, having recently bought a nice gun cleaning accessory kit that contains a set of three unground screwdrivers (turnscrews in Brit speak). If turnscrew is the proper British name for what we call a screwdriver, why is what we call a screw called a pin in British gun speak? Why wouldn't the Brits call the tool a turn pin? Why do you gents use a turnscrew to turn a pin?

Maybe there's some English doublegun history that would help explain that apparent contradiction ?


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Lol. You are applying logic to the English lainguage, Stan. It doesn’t work that way. laugh


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The term turnscrew probably originated from the woodworking trade like cabinet or furniture making and just stuck.
In the gun trade….a screw goes into wood while a pin goes into metal. A “wire” isn’t threaded and takes the place of a pin and usually holds the Sears and hammers/tumblers into the action.

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England and America. Two countries separated by a common language. Gil

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Just to confuse issues further, in the 1830's, Thomas Boss helped Purdey's finish off their guns. His main work was "screwing them together," that is, making screws then fitting the various parts together. This from Dallas' book on Boss.

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It's probably like our version of a "hose pipe", Stan.

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Stan I asked Len bull and Jack Rowe the same question,the answer was it's lost to history

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i suppose there are similar situations where American gunsmithing terms seem to be contradictory. If anyone knows of any I'd be interested to hear of them.


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Don't forget the lock nails that secure the lock plate to the stock......

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Pins in steel,,screws in wood

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