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Too, were there other British makes that had the modell designation >>Monte Carlo<<?? Or was Scott the lone maker to capitalize on the label?

Better stated, what were the British modell names of those firesticks used @ Monte Carlo?

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Originally Posted by Drew Hause
C.F.B.L.
Central Fire Breech Loader

I get the >>C.F.B.L.<< but the >>B.L.<< wasn't just dropped from >>C.F.B.L.<<. There was a reason for just >>C.F.<<. I say hammer/hahn.

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About 2/3 down is a J.D. Dougall Lockfast Hammerless Pigeon Gun
https://www.vintageguns.co.uk/magazine/no-charge-can-hurt-the-gun

Sig. Graselli used a Greener in 1897 before switching to a Scott
https://books.google.com/books?id=rEghAQAAMAAJ&pg=PT6&lpg

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Neat. And a little above it, I really like the card that reads >>No charge Can Hurt the Gun<< I must have one of those.

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I'll assume "C-F" means center-fire, this 10 years after it took over the market, showing the conservative nature of the UK gun business. Here are two ads from 1882 for Reilly...left from Websters guide which mentions several times "central-fire" and right from Grace's which mentions Reilly Pigeon guns.

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Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch
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A summary of the guns used at Hurlingham in 1897 from Experts On Guns and Shooting, 1900
Churchill and Purdey the most common; oddly no Scotts and few Greeners. In 1897, Webley amalgamated with W & C Scott & Sons

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Yeah the advert:

>>Excellent Plain Central-Fires, And Hammerless Guns, Ten to Fifteen Guineas<< says it all. Central Fires were hammerguns.

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1. Jeder Teilnehmer, der überführt wird, bei einem der Schlessen absichtlich eine Taube gefehlt zu haben, kann von der weiteren Teilnahme am Schlessen augeschlossen werdern.

2. Kaliber 10 ist das grösste zulässige Kaliber. Als Normalkaliber für die Berechnung derEntfernung ist Kaliber 12 angenommen.
Kaliber 10 steht 1 m zurück, Kaliber 16 steht 1 m vor.
Kleinete Kaliber als 16 erhalten keine besondere Vorgabe.
Als stäkste zulässige Schrotladunge gelten:
für Kaliber 10 = 42 g
für Kaliber 12 = 36 g
für Kaliber 16 = 30 g

Gröbere Schrotnummern als Nr. 5 Englisch(etwa 2 3/4 mm) sind nicht zugelassen.

3. Der Raum, innerhalb dessen die Taube fallen muss,
um als getroffen zu gelten, wird durch eine Barrière begrenzt......

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Per the above rules, maybe the Fella in the top foto is shooting a 16 bore &
possible the Fella in the lower foto is wielding a 10 bore C.F.??

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How many of the mentioned guns used Scott action and barrels

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