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Wolfgang's plat is the only that I've seen Raimey.

I've been working on Monte Carlo pigeon shooting for a long time, and glad to share some of the information. And yes, Steve's thread seemed to be a good starting place.

The puller's 'pill-box' next to the walk-way looks to have been replaced some time after the 1920s

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No box. Possibly the fella under the shade in the middle of the image was the puller

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1907 Monte Carlo Taubenschiessen Rules.

I'm fairly certain the above originated with >>Schuss & Waffe<<??

I'll work on the rules then.


So Hause, are you indeed a Pigeon shooter or just a fan of the Sport?

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Not Monte Carlo, but at least in France. I couldn't find a report.

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Lásló Graf Szápáry with Stumpy Peckinpah Lumniczer



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Lásló Graf Szápáry was a member of the Hungarian shooting team, together with Dr. Lumnicer (3x Worldchampion) who recruited him, Shot once 398/400 in Vienna!) & Pista Strassburger & Others.

Later Lásló Graf Szápáry was several times (14x) the Austrian champion in clay pigeon shooting. One of the best shooters of his time. There several texts about him & his exploits, about the great time of hunting in Austria and he is described there in great detail. On his Honeymoon went to Monte Carlo with his bride & not money in his pockets. After winning there, he and his new bride spent a wonderful time there best hotel, enjoying the all the creature comforts. The prize money was mighty hefty at the time....
He purchased a pair of 20G Springers when leaving school. Later he acquired a Springer Family Springer 12 Bore, Nr. 2 of a pair. The later bought the Nr. 2 of the pair from another family member. These were his hunting guns for a long time.


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Raimey, Drew et al;

There is still live pigeon shooting carried on today. I thought it telling and interesting what the famous shooter of the sport, Cyril Adams said to me one day while I was visiting him at his home in Houston. I do not remember his exact words as it was 20 years ago, but we were talking about shooting Helice and Cyril said that Helice was the toughest/most difficult shooting sport of them all including live pigeon shooting.

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Indeed there is & invitation only as far as the U.S. of A. And I have shot with some of the Best Box Bird shooters of South America & they still travel to I think it is Europe to shoot Box Birds.

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But we probably don't want to provide details.

1880 "The Sportsman's Guide"
Mr. Cholmondeley Pennell of England winner in 1878
1,328f would be about $95,000 today

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"Modern Shotguns", 1888

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Originally Posted by Drew Hause
But we probably don't want to provide details.

Exactly.....

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The high listing of shooting regulations for shooting pigeons?? I love to shoot barn pigeons, but have never shot pigeons in any competition, nor probably never will. I did own and shoot a optioned 12 L.C. Smith 3E that was set up in the late 1920's (my guess anyway) for a Philadelphia sportsman named Charles Backstrand (head Fred of Armstrong Cork and Tile (Linoleum Flooring) and he may have been a member of the Philadelphia Gun Club-- back in the day. I shoot barn pigeons on area dairy farms, mainly with my M12's, that's as close as I get-sharpens my eyes for the coming waterfowling seasons. I surmise you have the 2nd. edition, as do I, of Hemingway's Guns--Just for "funzies" of all his guns over the years whose whereabouts are known, pick one each: rifle, handgun. shotgun once owned and shot by "Don Ernesto" that you could own and use, free and clear, yet today--OK- here's my picks-- Shotgun- the 12 gauge Beretta O/U with the case and his Cuban residence marked thereon- Rifle-- the G&H custom 30-06, and if possible, the Heiser case and also the scope and case and the G&H mount- Pistol-- either of the 2 Colt Match Target Woodsman pistols- the 4& 1/2" long barrel or the 6" barreled one-- Not ever gonna happen, but a feller can dream, right?? RWTF


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Slowly making progress. Sig. Guidicini used a Scott in 1893. He also won in 1890.

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