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There has been some interest on this site PM-ed to me about a double rifle that I built a few years back. I delineated the building of this rifle on the double rifle section of the website NitroExpress.com and here is a link to my posting on that site, note that the posting is 3 pages long so you will have to scroll through all 3 pages to view the work.

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/show...al&topic=&Search=true#Post297834

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Stephen, that was an extremely interesting and informative thread. There are numerous craftsmen here who are obviously quite talented and gifted. But only a very few are so willing to show us the fascinating details of their work. Very generous of you. This is the stuff that keeps me coming back here. Thank you for sharing the link to your double rifle build with us.


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Your work and skill are, literally, quite breathtaking. I cannot imagine owning such talent. Bravo.

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While Steve's photos show his work pretty well they are no substitute for holding the gun in your hands for a real viewing. I have and it is truly a work of art.

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Steve,

These photos are, well, what can I say, impressive. You are very talented. A labor of love for sure.


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Stephen,
I have followed your posts over on Nitro Express since I first became interested the work of Birdhunter 50 and bought two doubles that he made.

As you may remember, Bob loved all aspects of making a DR EXCEPT regulating it. After he passed away, I purchased the Beretta 45-70 that was his deer hunting rifle from the estate and turned it over to Aaron Little here in Texas and Aaron converted it to .45-90 and did a beautiful job of regulating the rifle for 45 yards. When I finally got around to hunting with it, I learned that the regulation was done so well, that it still places a R&L in a tight group at 100 yards! That bullet seriously damaged a Blackbuck that I shot just before the summer temps became too hot to enjoy outdoor activities.
And believe me when those 350 grain North Fork bullets travelling over 2000 fps hit something at 100 yards, it goes down!
Now that the weather may cool off some this fall, I plan to chrony the gun and try it on some Texas sized game such as Nilgai, hogs, Red deer, etc.

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crs;

I knew Bob, aka "Birdhunter" and I know your DR that he built well also. He and I had different opinions on how much over pressure to proof test a DR, I chose high pressures and he a good bit less. It was not that Bob did not like regulating, but was a bit over careful holding chamber pressures down and he regulated using loads that were lower velocity and pressure than most any other shooter would use. Therefore shooting off the shelf ammo and handloads in one of his DR was going to produce different bullet impacts at the distance where originally regulated the point of impact.

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Steve,
The build was wonderful, but I want to ask about the 38-55 McPherson Express brass you use. I make cases for some obsolete cartridges I load for from original length 38-55 (2.125-130") cases, the current length of 38-55 cases is 2.080", the same as 30-30. Even the original length cases are up to 1/16" short, depending upon how much they lengthen during sizing. My question is, how long is the 38-55 McPherson Express case? Are they a special-order case and if so, what is the minimum order?
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Steve,
The build was wonderful, but I want to ask about the 38-55 McPherson Express brass you use. I make cases for some obsolete cartridges I load for from original length 38-55 (2.125-130") cases, the current length of 38-55 cases is 2.080", the same as 30-30. Even the original length cases are up to 1/16" short, depending upon how much they lengthen during sizing. My question is, how long is the 38-55 McPherson Express case? Are they a special-order case and if so, what is the minimum order?
Mike

I buy them from Starline brass and they are 2.125 inches long plus/minus a few thousands of an inch. The following links will provide info helpful to your endeavors.

https://www.starlinebrass.com/38-55-long-brass-2125


https://www.starlinebrass.com/articles/loading-with-correct-38-55-winchester-cases-38-55-rifle/

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Steve,
Thanks, those are the original length 38-55 cases that I already use, 32-40 and 35-55 were both originally that length until someone decided they could save a dollar's worth of brass in a million rounds by using 30-30 cases. I'm down to my last bag of original 38-55 cases in my old stash and was hoping I had found a case long enough to make full length 57- & 58-mm cases without shortening 9.3x72R cases. Thanks anyway.
Mike

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