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And there seems to be a Meffert novel design under DRP Hubertusgewehr DRP-Nr. 7142? I'll have to do a bit of diggin' to sort it all.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Ah-Ha, found info on DRP 7142:

>>The gun shown in Martin Krause's photos is an Immanuel Meffert, Suhl "Hubertus" safety gun, a later type with toplever opening. The unique triggerplate lockwork was invented and patented by the forester Franz Feist, Sommerschenburg, DRPatent # 7142 of 1879. I have an earlier example with the Lefaucheux underlever breech action, datable to 1893 both by the crown/V mark and family history. Opening the gun pushes back the hammers to the cocked position, as usual. Releasing that pistolgrip-like lever from the small of the stock partially uncocks the mainspring (yes, there is only one four-pronged omega-shaped spring in that double gun!), blocks the triggers and blocks the hammers back from the firing pins. If you want to use the gun you press that lever back to the stock, where it is caught by a little latch. Will post some photos soon. Only much later "Hubertus" became a more general I.Meffert trademark applied to drillings and other guns.<<

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forum...p;Words=feist&Search=true#Post328938

The action area of my own I.Meffert "Hubertus" safety gun.

The lockwork of this perfectly round actioned gun with the unique mainspring. This is the type of lock usually found in the "Hubertus" guns until end of production around WW1. "Safe" position.


Another, even much earlier Meffert "Hubertus" gun. This V-spring lockwork is still much closer to Franz Feist's 1879 patent drawing."Fire" position in lockwork photo




Serbus,

Raimey
rse

So the Meffert Safety System is actually that of Forester Franz Feist of Sommerschenburg. I do wonder if Meffert purchased Feist's novel advancement or just lifted it?


Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Thanks for the other link, it is hard to believe he was using that lever as late as 1931. Wow. Old timers must have liked it.

Raimey,
The Drilling has a Bavarian cheekpiece. They were pretty popular because some stockmakers preferred them and "pushed" them. They were easier to form than the traditional or German cheekpiece. Note the rear of the Bavarian cheekpiece can be formed by a drawknife after being blocked out by a bandsaw. The German cheekpiece takes considerably more time.
Mike

Ah, Bavarian... Thanks Ford.

Raimey
rse

Also, Meffert used a horizontal striker block system that was retained to the top tang by a couple screws and thanks to Wolfgang on locating DRP #98923 attributed to Johann Kulhanek in Neunkirchen. Protection was sought on July 29th, 1897.


Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Meffert also had a novel advancement for a side lock under DRP Nr. 4770 from September 11th, 1878. Wolfgang made a lovely find here too.


Serbus,

Raimey
rse

That drilling was retailed in Munich by A. Schurk.

I just found this:

"Adam Schurk traded in his catalogs as Waffenfabrik in Munich, Morassiestrasse 2a.

However, he was more of a dealer than a manufacturer, buying high-quality weapons from many renowned, especially smaller, gun manufacturers in Suhl and selling them under his own name.

He also had Heeren rifles in his sales program.

He was active after the turn of the century until the 30s/40s."

Cheers,
Wolfgang