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So, it looks like I'm in the market for a ribbed 31XA or a 31TC.

Thanks, Dave


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Was the M31's solid rib milled from the same billet as the barrel as was the M17 and not soldered to the barrel? Gil

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Yes, as Buzz posted earlier, it was, and the vent rib on the Model 31 is also milled from the same piece of steel, just like the solid rib.

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Thanks. If Buzz's post had been a snake, it would have bit me.

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Originally Posted by AZMike
The OP's noted gun is clean and nice but I think a ribbed 31 is way cooler.

Well yeah, but at what price? This is a high-condition, plain huntin' gun, no pretentions, at a fair price, is all I'm saying...
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From the introduction of a solid rib for the Remington Autoloading Shotgun in the 1908 Remington Arms Co. catalog through the last Remington Model 31s in early 1950 all Remington ribs were milled integral with the barrel -- Model 11, Sportsman, Model 10, Model 17, Model 29 and Model 31. For some reason Remington only offered ventilated ribs on 12-gauge target guns, 30-inch trap barrels and 26-inch skeet barrels, in their pump guns. For the Model 11 and Sportsman autoloaders both solid ribs and vent ribs were offered in all barrel lengths and gauges.

In the later 1930s when Remington began offering factory Poly-Chokes, they milled them integral with the barrel as well.

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Now Researcher that’s one I did not know! I have a minty 17 Deluxe with the milled rib but had no idea of the milled Poly-choke. What were they not capable of! I am amazed of the workmanship in my 17 and low end 31L. Thanks for the information.


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There is no such thing as a Model 17 Deluxe. There was the Model 17A "Standard" Grade, the Model 17B "Special" Grade, the Model 17D "Tournament" Grade, the Model 17E "Expert" Grade and the Model 17F "Premier" Grade.

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From the Model 17s introduction in the first Remington Arms Co., Inc. catalog (Catalog No. 51) the Model 17A "Standard" Grade had a plain American Walnut stock and ringed slide handle.

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When Remington transitioned from the Model 10 to the Model 29 for their 12-gauge pump, the A "Standard" Grade got a checkered American Walnut stock and slide handle. Within a year the Model 17A "Standard" Grade got a checkered American Walnut stock and slide handle. From the 1930 catalog --

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The Model 17B "Special" Grade had a checkered imported walnut stock and slide handle. It seems 99% of the time a dealer advertises a gun as a Model 17B "Special" Grade it is just a late Model 17A "Standard" Grade.

Real B "Special" Grades would be so marked --

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How rare are solid rib M17s? Saw my first just a bit ago and I liked it. Didn't seem to add alot of weight.

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I have a Remington Model 10T (Target) That's the VR model.
The VR being one piece with the bbl itself is quite a piece of machinework.

Nice shotgun, pretty wood. Two factory #'d butt stocks actually.
3 'Returned to Factory for Service' date codes on the bbl.
IIRC the mfg yr was '27 or 28.
A favorite shooter on the Skeet range for me
and when I do occasionally make it to the SC course.
Choke is your friend..

I had a Model 17 w/Solid Rib some yrs back. But it got traded/sold away.
I want to think that it traded for a Winchester 42. But that might only be to try and make me feel better.

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