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Two other questions:
-- Looks like a modern fore-end? Anson?
-- And what are those screws on the fences all about?

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Originally Posted by canvasback
This would appear to be the one recently posted on FB SxS goup?


It appears to be the same one.

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Anson Pushrod on the forend. And I think there was a definition w/ Purdey in the mix too?

I believe those screws retain the strikers?

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Let me have a last go at dating the gun - waiting for FAB:

-- Manufrance - must be post 1885.
-- Ideal? If so must be post 1887.
-- Chambered in mm? We have theorized that in 1889 Saint-Etienne changed to using cm for chamber length so this is an anomaly discussed above. I personally think there should be a decimal between the 6 and 5.
-- It is stamped with the "Cycles" address so must be post 1892.
-- Proofed PJ so probably between March 1896 and 1900 when PT became standard.

-- There's a problem of the SN 4297 which would date to February 1890....if that's a SN and if it's an Ideal....

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I think this gun was listed and relisted on GB
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/919234185
Relisted
https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/920834637

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5K ?

Always the optimist I guess.

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Originally Posted by RARiddell
I think this gun was listed and relisted on GB
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/919234185
Relisted
https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/920834637
Yes I did put it up on that site. The story is, I bought the gun from a guy on another site. He was told it was a 410, and found out it wasn't. I got it and put away in my safe this summer. Decided to list it as he told me it was a 28 Guage, and I have since purchased two newer 28's. I bought some 28ga shells since, and surprise they didn't work when I recently tried to put in the gun. Brought the gun to Orvis. The gunsmith at Orvis was able to check the Guage. So it's a 32 Guage chambered at 2.5" so it is marked correctly. Between the barrels has a number 28 which is likely why the seller told me it was a 28 Guage and also why I thought the same. I have some fioci 32 Guage shells now thanks to the guys at Orvis. I am a bit afraid to shoot but sure it's probably just fine and was told by the gunsmith I could. It's a tight gun and on face. No issues with the barrels. I have seriously considered keeping this gun in my collection, but have just so many 21+ and limited space. Trying to get down to just guns I will continue to use as this is the first year I have started to bird hunt, and I am a lefty. It's hard to be a collector with a family of 4 in a small home 😥 I know this Guage was meant for quail, but how would it do on Pheasant? Rabbit? Obviously not Turkey though I would love to try.

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Originally Posted by Argo44
Let me have a last go at dating the gun - waiting for FAB:

-- Manufrance - must be post 1885.
-- Ideal? If so must be post 1887.
-- Chambered in mm? We have theorized that in 1889 Saint-Etienne changed to using cm for chamber length so this is an anomaly discussed above. I personally think there should be a decimal between the 6 and 5.
-- It is stamped with the "Cycles" address so must be post 1892.
-- Proofed PJ so probably between March 1896 and 1900 when PT became standard.

-- There's a problem of the SN 4297 which would date to February 1890....if that's a SN and if it's an Ideal....

Gene, you are confusing me. Clearly, it is not an Ideal. Why are you bringing Ideals into the discussion. There is good anecdotal evidence that Manufrance used separate serial number sequences for different models of guns until after WWII.


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Originally Posted by Shane Reed
Originally Posted by RARiddell
I think this gun was listed and relisted on GB
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/919234185
Relisted
https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/920834637
Yes I did put it up on that site. The story is, I bought the gun from a guy on another site. He was told it was a 410, and found out it wasn't. I got it and put away in my safe this summer. Decided to list it as he told me it was a 28 Guage, and I have since purchased two newer 28's. I bought some 28ga shells since, and surprise they didn't work when I recently tried to put in the gun. Brought the gun to Orvis. The gunsmith at Orvis was able to check the Guage. So it's a 32 Guage chambered at 2.5" so it is marked correctly. Between the barrels has a number 28 which is likely why the seller told me it was a 28 Guage and also why I thought the same. I have some fioci 32 Guage shells now thanks to the guys at Orvis. I am a bit afraid to shoot but sure it's probably just fine and was told by the gunsmith I could. It's a tight gun and on face. No issues with the barrels. I have seriously considered keeping this gun in my collection, but have just so many 21+ and limited space. Trying to get down to just guns I will continue to use as this is the first year I have started to bird hunt, and I am a lefty. It's hard to be a collector with a family of 4 in a small home 😥 I know this Guage was meant for quail, but how would it do on Pheasant? Rabbit? Obviously not Turkey though I would love to try.

I know a few guys who are quite successful with .410 on turkey. Using TSS handloads.


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Originally Posted by battle
5K ?

Always the optimist I guess.
I have been thrown many numbers up to that amount. So started high and left open to offers. I have no clue of true value not being able to find another anywhere on line in this brand.

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