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Who might this HM mechanic be ? And what are the pair of x marks on each tube of this suhl (nitro marked) barrels? Any info would help? ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/i92MCCP.jpg)
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Maybe Hugo Manteuffel if Zella Sankt Blasii - Mehlis?? Hugo Menz, if Suhl??? I am sure there are others Which City?
K in a Rhombus?
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Too, Heinrich Moritz of Z-M might be a culprit but I believe he was a peddler of wood and specialized in that & repairs along with some pistol paraphernalia. Stock mechanics is really one area we haven't mined much.
One interesting name associated with tube work is that of August Menz of Suhl, proprietor of Waffenfabrik Menz. One sees the initials AM from times to time on tubes.
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Oh, those >>Boxed Ks<< or Ks in a Rhombus are either for a mechanic Klett or Kelber, depending on which way you lean?
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![[Linked Image from i697.photobucket.com]](http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv337/ellenbrs/Greifeldt/germaandrillingtouchmarkswithboxedks_zps65e96d5d.jpg) >>Looks like a post 1912 Greifeldt offering in 20 bore over 6.3X52R/25-35 Winchester with the bullet type & weight on side of tube. Difficult to tell for sure but the lower tube looks to have the S in a Chevron noting the Schilling forge while the scattergun tubes have the K in a Rhombus/Boxed Ks as Baumgarten might but it noting a K forge. RM tubefitter & I'm sure there ar other touchmarks.<< https://www.doublegunshop.com/forum...Words=rhombus&Search=true#Post352057Serbus, Raimey rse
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On the double shotgun posted by Jtplumb, I agree with him that they look like Xs or crosses in a box, not Ks. Note the marks on the top of the underlug, also Xs, but oriented differently. The marks on the drilling may be Ks, I can't see them clearly.
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Thanks will get better pics if I can land this one, interesting 16ga. Never seen x’s like that on German gun, just making sure wasn’t a bad thing. Modern guns have choke markings like that I believe, didn’t look as if they belong here.
Last edited by Jtplumb; 09/27/21 09:14 PM.
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Ok I won the auction. Anything you gentlemen can tell me about this one. Hopefully engraving looks better in person ( photo quality was bad, I hope) Looks well used but sellers claims tight and no pits, dents or bulges. 30” barrels, no overhanging sear, lots of fiddle/striping in wood should be really nice checkered and refinished. Hard to pass these great pre-ww2 16s up! Thanks in advance ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/IQPpb20.png) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/yt8UchZ.png) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/sesm8uZ.png) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/fWVX0gr.png)
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A bit of a workhorse A&D Body Action with ejectors coupled with sideclips & 1/2 pipe side-frame reinforcement. Scalloped frame with arcaded fences also. Nothing short about the all Suhl longarm.
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Can you tell me what this screw is for? Many of the German boxlocks I see do not have one in that location, I’m not well versed in the mechanism. Thanks ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/0Z3vmfn.jpg)
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