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#603363 09/24/21 10:40 AM
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Some of us have had or know of guns we consider as unsafe to shoot...care to tell us about one?


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From my experience they are generally owned by old Farmers. The guns are Belgian hammer guns that are Black Powder Proof; never, ever cleaned, loose on the action because they fire the heaviest loads they can find, the top lever held in place by an elastic band, invariably dented and only a combination of luck and the gods that protect old farmers have so far failed to blow them to pieces. I think that fits a number I have seen over the years. Lagopus.....

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Originally Posted by ed good
Some of us have had or know of guns we consider as unsafe to shoot...care to tell us about one?

Any one that is pointed at you.


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Some of the guns sold by a guy in nh might qualify.and lonesome roads gets the prize for best answer

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cum on guys...tell us about one...

here is the most recent one i have seen...a 12 gauge boxlock churchill that had been sleeved...barrel walls in front of chambers were only .060...way too thin for me...and no economical way to fix it...

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I have a damascus 12 gauge gun with .080 in front of the chambers. I am comfortable shooting low pressure 1 ounce loads thru it. Minimum wall thickness everywhere else is .024 What works for me won't necessarily work for someone else. I also once owned a Beretta Vitoria 16 gauge made in 1949 that had original .017 wall thickness 7 inches from the muzzle. Never had a problem with factory ammo. Sold the gun because it didn't really fit me well and disclosed the thin walls to the new buyer.


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12bore, shooting smokeless in a damascus gun is pushing it...doing so in such light barrels, is even more risky...

.017 seven inches down in a 16 is risky and could easily result in a bulge or an eruption if even a slight blockage occurs...

you were lucky shooting both guns...

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Originally Posted by lagopus
From my experience they are generally owned by old Farmers. The guns are Belgian hammer guns that are Black Powder Proof; never, ever cleaned, loose on the action because they fire the heaviest loads they can find, the top lever held in place by an elastic band, invariably dented and only a combination of luck and the gods that protect old farmers have so far failed to blow them to pieces. I think that fits a number I have seen over the years. Lagopus.....

Sounds like you don't have a lot of confidence in "old Farmers" sense about guns. You say you believe "old Farmers" never, ever cleaned old Belgian hammer guns. You believe they use the "heaviest loads they can find". You name "old Farmers" as the ones who use elastic bands to hold top levers in place. Why farmers, and old ones, in particular?


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Originally Posted by ed good
12bore, shooting smokeless in a damascus gun is pushing it...doing so in such light barrels, is even more risky...

.017 seven inches down in a 16 is risky and could easily result in a bulge or an eruption if even a slight blockage occurs...

you were lucky shooting both guns...

other opinions?

Yeah, here's mine. You're full of it. It didn't result in "an eruption", obviously. Why didn't it, ed, if it was unsafe?


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well stan, this is about opinion...you may have different opinions...thats ok...but do try to behave in a gentlemanly fashion while participating in this thread on this fine forum...


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