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I agree completely, IMR says as much when questioned on the matter. Not going to invest in increased capacity as they do not see long term demand justifying the required capital investment.


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Thanks fellas as that is about the general consensus of what we devised & where we arrived.


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Not only is Turkey selling anti - Drone cartridges, but Armed Drones too. Seems they have cornered the market?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...les-ethiopia-morocco-sources-2021-10-14/

Interesting that they can peddle them cheaper than China, Israel & the U.S. of A.??


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Originally Posted by ellenbr
Not only is Turkey selling anti - Drone cartridges, but Armed Drones too. Seems they have cornered the market?

That would seem to be a logical evolution in "Live Bird" events that even PETA might condone.
How would you adapt rules & scores when the Bird can shoot back?
Maybe even create variations of FITASC that include AI drone piloting to anticipate, adapt & expand the evasion & retaliation strategies of the "Bird".

+2 -if your competitor is eliminated by Bird.
+3 -if Woke protester eliminated by Bird.
-1 -if Bird wounds you first.
+3 -if you manage to eliminate the Bird in spite of you're being wounded.
"No Score" -if Bird eliminates you.
"Lost Bird" -Run for Cover if Bird decides there is something more interesting over the horizon & pursues Him/Her/it/Them with a Vengeance!

Something Special -for tie score Shoot-Off "Elimination" rounds.
A new level of Focus & Pucker-Factor would accompany the "Flurry" event sick

The mind boggles with the possibilities laugh


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Along the lines of cartridges, I have been sourcing some 32 bore cartridges such as Rio, Fiocchi, Federal. On the various websites, Federal is noted as being >>Made in the USA<< but when the boxes arrived, they are stamped >>Made in Italy<< and they are for the most part one in the same as Fiocchi, with Federal roll stamped on the sides.

But considering the brass plated heads, what dictates just how long it is to be???

The Rio cartridges are 0.320" in length


whilst the Fiocchi cartridges are 0.280" in length.

I haven't had any issue with the Rio or the Federals but the Fiocchis have had a few misfires? The shorter brass head seems to drop just slightly deeper in the chamber but the Federal & Fiocchi have the same length brass head.

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Over the past weekend @ a local gunshop, I overheard someone comment that Fiocchi had a factory in Missouri or similar as they were getting most there components in the U.S. of A. anyway. If true, then this could explain the Federal 32 bore cartridges? I saw lots of 16(70mm) bore cartridges from yesteryear. Shot sizes ranged from #9s to #4s. I couldn't pass up the #9s in a Ziplock bag......


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I shot three rounds of skeet with Sterling ammo yesterday. It worked fine and was clean burning. The shells heads seem to be all brass and it cycled fine through a gun that doesn't like brass plated steel shells.

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Many thanks for the info.

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