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One thing very few people figure in is the shape of the comb. The measurements seldom account for drop at face, and the comb profile is never quantified. A consistent gun mount must be developed before any fitting numbers are meaningful. As mentioned the mechanical influence of bore and choke being concentric, convergence of patterns on target. As Brister said art and science.

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not all my sxs are the same measurements, but pretty close at the face, which is usually about 3" back from the comb but could be different for you. The other point often missed but is critical is the shape of the butt. A sharp toe relative to your chest will throw the pattern high.


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I've been fitted, and have the measurements from that session. They turned out to be extremely close to what I had already determined I needed, by shooting at a plate and making dimensional adjustments myself. That said, the only thing knowing my measurements are useful for is when looking at guns online, or ordering a gun. I can usually know, within a range, if a gun is unsuitable for me by examining the dims on it. But, nothing can take the place of shouldering the gun a few times. I can mount a gun and know immediately if I will be able to shoot it reasonably well. Years of shooting different guns is worth a lot.


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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
I've been fitted, and have the measurements from that session. They turned out to be extremely close to what I had already determined I needed, by shooting at a plate and making dimensional adjustments myself. That said, the only thing knowing my measurements are useful for is when looking at guns online, or ordering a gun. I can usually know, within a range, if a gun is unsuitable for me by examining the dims on it. But, nothing can take the place of shouldering the gun a few times. I can mount a gun and know immediately if I will be able to shoot it reasonably well. Years of shooting different guns is worth a lot.

"not all my sxs are the same measurements, but pretty close at the face, which is usually about 3" back from the comb but could be different for you."

I agree.

My preference is to only have sxs that shoot to the same POI (or very close to it) so that I don't need to make any adjustments when I go from one shotgun to another one. I'll shoot a new purchase at targets and at a pattern sheet at 16 yards. If I feel it's needed, I will have the stock bent.

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Originally Posted by Joe Wood
Originally Posted by mel5141
I caution you about putting so much emphasis on "measurements" those were your measurements for THAT Gun.... Subject to change......with each subsequent gun....
Remember one very important principle....... Gun Fit is simply a matter of WHERE THE LOADS GO.... with any gun.... not .a set of carpenter measurements that will not likely carry over for multiple guns.....
Point of Impact connected to a particular Point of Aim......that is the essence of "Gun Fit"
Lots of guns and a LOT of Shooting behind my opinion.


Exactly what Mel said. Among other considerations: summer or winter? Heavy clothing or shirtsleeves? Weight of gun and where does it balance? Premounted or low gun? Instinctive shot or aimed? And on and on. Every gun will have different measurements and even those vary with the season. Good luck!

Joe's point regarding "Premounted or low gun? Instinctive shot or aimed?" resonates with me. I've always been a low-gun shooter, but in the past I was much more of an aimer, and I preferred and shot best looking down a flat rib. I eventually weened myself off the barrel and I now prefer and shoot best with a higher comb well above the rib with either a SxS or an O/U.

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Originally Posted by Buzz
I’ve always heard that a gun fitting for a SxS vs an O/U is ‘slightly different’. So, what’s slightly different??

It has to do with the difference in barrel flip. I need an O/U comb slightly higher. But most O/U shooting is not as low gun as side by side shooting so the higher comb seems easier to adjust to for my shooting style. Unless the rib is extra high it makes little difference to my shooting style but high ribs on side by sides just look hideous to my eye.

If a person has been fitted they need to consider it as a starting point not the answer to their shooting needs for every situation. It is a rough guide.

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Does not barrel flip occur after the trigger is pulled? If a gun is properly fitted how does fitting a gun for barrel flip come into play before the shot? For the second shot?

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