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#600297 07/27/21 05:31 PM
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I just acquired a 10 Gauge New Baker model SxS.
I have gone over the shotgun with a fine tooth comb, and other than the serial number 226xx and the name New Baker on each side of the action there are no markings at all.
I am curious as to when and where the gun was made, and any other information I can acquire about it.
I would say the gun is in 70%+ condition.
The Damascus pattern is very well preserved, and the checkering is nearly perfect.
Another interesting feature is that it has 3.25" chambers.
I never ran across a gun this old with chambers that size.
As you can see from the photos it is in very good condition.
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Welcome on your first posting
Neat gun

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Daryl Hallquist should be along shortly smile

http://www.bakercollectors.com/

Mike

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Originally Posted by skeettx
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Neat gun

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Daryl Hallquist should be along shortly smile

http://www.bakercollectors.com/

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Thank you for the welcome.
I am enjoying myself a great deal.
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8 bore E.M. Reilly on Guntrader UK. SN 20469 (1877). 34" barrels. 3 1/4" chamber. Don't know it that is original chambering. Donald Dallas commented that he never saw a UK original Shotgun chamber longer than 2 1/2" in the 19th century but we have subsequently posted some I believe. Of course these are rifles.
https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns/reilly-em/hammer/08-gauge/210723151839657
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8 bore E.M. Reilly on Rock Island auction. SN 18534 (1874). 3 1/4" Chambers. Again don't know if this is original:
https://www.rockislandauction.com/d...bore-back-action-underlever-double-rifle
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That gun is in a lot better condition than 70%. More like 90% based on the photos. Case colors are faded, but otherwise very high.
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The barrels are what Baker Gun & Forging called "Best London Damascus Twist", which was used on the Grade B hammerless

Did you use a rule to measure the chamber length? The chambers very likely started at 2 7/8", and if slightly over-size the rule would over estimate the length. It is critical that the end of chamber and forcing cone wall thicknesses be measured before using the gun.

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I measured the chambers with a depth micrometer,
a perfect 3.25".
I can load a brass 2 7/8ths case in it and using a bore scope i can see lots of chamber still unused.
I am a machinist by trade, and the chambers don't show any demarcation line which I
believe would be present if the chambers had been lengthened.
So I can't help but believe that it was special ordered with long chambers.
Chamber wall thickness at end of chamber is .112.
Muzzle wall thickness is .096 for both barrels.
As I stated earlier, the only markings on this gun, are the name, New Baker, the serial number.
Matching serial numbers on barrels, water table, and forestock on both wood and metal.
Correction, There is a number 6 or 9 on the water table as well.
No marks on the Hook or on the rib.
I am somewhat at a loss, as this gun doesn't seem to fit any of the descriptions I see for Bakers,

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The New Baker Top Bolt model was produced 1892-1896 with SNs 16,000-27,000
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zR9cn008zfbEsyaynA_u8sf9wHI6ItVi0msn2alC9ek/edit

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Originally Posted by Drew Hause
The New Baker Top Bolt model was produced 1892-1896 with SNs 16,000-27,000
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zR9cn008zfbEsyaynA_u8sf9wHI6ItVi0msn2alC9ek/edit

This shotgun is in that serial number range.
I am still stumped by the lack of markings.

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