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I know two shell makers who are not in it for profit as much to share what they have learned making premium turkey and waterfowl loads. So they might be your boutique makers. Or Boss who makes Bismuth loads and they even make their own Bismuth in house. They are in it to make money but are a very specialized maker filling a real need for reasonably priced, effective non tox waterfowl loads. So instead of boutique makers we ought to divide them into small narrow market loaders and ultra small. The ultra small might not make it.

FallCreekFan pm your address. I’ll look at home for 16 wads you can’t find. I had a lot but recall sending two batches out to friends who were out. Might still have some on hand that I am not using and would be happy to send them to someone who can use them. I have other options. I might have DR16 left along with the AA16 clone and a few others. I’ll look.

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Have y'all noticed that Connecticut Shotgun / Galazan is peddling Activ Steel Shot?


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Over at trapshooters.com they have posted Gamalail's price list for the Shell House at the Grand American shoot in August. A bit higher but not too bad!
just a few:
Win AA $90
Win super target $71
Challenger $69
Rem GC $75
Rem STS $97

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Very kind of you, Jon. PM sent.


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Originally Posted by LeFusil
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
I'm reminded of a line by Jack Nicholson in a movie .................. "What if this is as good as it gets?"

But, to Dustin's question, I don't believe the smaller loading companies are facing the exact same situation individuals are. Old customers, including RST, who buy volume, will be looked after way before individuals will be. I see an example of this at my local sporting clays, skeet and trap range. They've been a regular, volume customer for many years. Their supplier has been able to keep them supplied with shells, for their customers to use to shoot at the range, throughout this fiasco. At the same time, none of the retailers have had any shells on their shelves.


If RST isn’t facing the same issues as individuals…..why aren’t they producing any product whatsoever? They can’t buy in volume if the volume just flat out isn’t there, they can’t sell a product and make money if they aren’t producing anything to sell, correct? Their absence from any shooting venues this spring/summer and their website not having anything available is very telling, to me anyways.

They may well be limited somewhat in what they are receiving in components, but I would not be a bit surprised to know that they're still loading some and selling them out the front door as fast as they can load them, without having to go attend any shoots, or list any for shipping on their website. A call would find out. I'm not really interested in RSTs wares at this time, so I won't bother to call and find out. My thoughts are just that, just because you don't see any on their website, or see them at shoots, doesn't necessarily mean they aren't "producing any product whatsoever". BICBW.


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I think Stan has nailed the likely scenario. The jurisdiction I live in has had one of the most draconian sets of rules for Covid in NA. Most small businesses have been closed to foot traffic traffic. And yes, some have closed for good. But the majority have cut expenses to the bone and found a way to keep a little cash flow happening.

The government mandated closures have been brutal on small and medium businesses and manna sent from heaven for large multinationals. Something isn’t right.


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Well, that >>Thunderbird Cartridge Company<< has escaped me till now.


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Glad Im not addicted to shooting my guns.....with the prices today I would be eating into the families standard of living........feel fine just letting them rest in the safe until hunting season.....


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Guns are like second wives or some kids, expensive to keep and even more expensive to get rid of. Anybody suffering from expensive guns can ship them to me and I’ll accept them free of charge. You can keep your kids and no amount of money would compel me to accept a used second wife;). Your mistakes you can keep.

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