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A few of them out there, but more or less talking about RST.

I wonder how they’re going to survive this component/supply shortage? I’m no business major, but it seems having almost zero inventory for the last year and a half would force them to close their doors for good.
I understand how the major ammunition companies can survive this component drought, but I just can’t see how a small company like RST pulls out of this. Same goes for the component supply stores & warehouses. BPI, Precision, Grafs, etc. Hardly any of them have much of a stock. How do they keep their doors open with virtually nothing to sell?

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PPP for free.

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You sell what you have. I deal with a couple "boutique" shell makers. They ordered inputs for this year, last year. Most have gotten things on time so far but do not think they will get any extras to have a second run. They even have a couple new items for this year. If they have anything you have an interest in you had better order it when they have it because it will be gone too soon.

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I guess I don’t see them making enough profit just selling what they have to keep the lights on & doors open when they hardly have any inventory or component supplies to speak of.
I still haven’t seen any signs of the component crisis easing up. Have you?

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Originally Posted by LeFusil
I guess I don’t see them making enough profit just selling what they have to keep the lights on & doors open when they hardly have any inventory or component supplies to speak of.
I still haven’t seen any signs of the component crisis easing up. Have you?

I have, especially with powder. It is a much better situation than it was a couple of months ago, but still not nearly the selection of a year ago.

Similar situation for metallic cartridges, selection is poor but improving.

I think you are correct in that some small manufacturers will not make it through the supply chain disruption.

I have been stocking up on hard to find components, dies etc because I think it will be a while before things stabilize, with some items not to be offered again.


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Originally Posted by SKB
Originally Posted by LeFusil
I guess I don’t see them making enough profit just selling what they have to keep the lights on & doors open when they hardly have any inventory or component supplies to speak of.
I still haven’t seen any signs of the component crisis easing up. Have you?

I have, especially with powder. It is a much better situation than it was a couple of months ago, but still not nearly the selection of a year ago.

Similar situation for metallic cartridges, selection is poor but improving.

I think you are correct in that some small manufacturers will not make it through the supply chain disruption.

I have been stocking up on hard to find components, dies etc because I think it will be a while before things stabilize, with some items not to be offered again.


I 100% reload strictly shotgun, Steve. I don’t see much powder being available for that. I occasionally see some Alliant powders being available, but most of the Hodgdon shotgun powders are practically non existent. Maybe I’m not looking in all the nooks & crannies though.
209 primers? Even a couple years ago those were pretty spotty. Almost non-existent today. Occasionally see some Cheddites for sale. Not very often though.
Even wads are starting to get hard to find. Especially 16 gauge stuff.
I agree that I do see much more metallic selections on the store shelves and prices seem to be coming down.
Now…..try finding good hunting loads for shotguns, especially 16 gauge. Not much out there. Steel? Not much out there either. My only hope with that is, and this is purely selfish, but with shotgun shells being sparse, especially waterfowl loads, maybe it’ll keep the damn crowds down to a reasonable number.

What happens when these “PPP” loans run out and the supply chain still isn’t where it needs to be? That’s probably gonna turn out bad for the reloading specialty and boutique shot shell businesses.

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I do not reload for shotgun unless forced to. I bought 7 flats of 2&1/2" 12 bore in the last few months to cover my hunting needs for next little bit. If the cost of shipping ever comes back to earth I will import more shells for myself.

I thought you would have heard the 16 bore became obsolete decades ago? wink

Steel? Not me, but I do have a quantity of Bismuth stashed.

Watch the Hodgon sight directly, they release powder to the public every week. Bruno has 3 types of shotgun powder, not sure if they have what you are after or not:

https://www.brunoshooters.com/mm5/m...t=0&Per_Page=12&Sort_By=disp_ord

Piece edge has several Hodgon powders as well:

https://pieceedge.com/product-category/reloading-supplies/smokeless-powder/hodgdon/

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Regarding steel, are all Steel loads filled w/ Chinese sourced steel?

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7 flats of hunting shells? Like in 1750 shells? I don’t know where you’re hunting, but for most, that’s a lifetime supply, maybe two lifetimes. :-) If a guy shot 100 upland game birds a year (not counting doves), well that 7 flats should last about 17 years. Maybe a Valley quail hunter who gets a 10 bird limit every trip or an Alaskan shooting Ptarmigan off the Dalton Hwy where the limit is 20 or 50 per day. You get the idea, I think you’re set for a good while.

If you’re an occasional waterfowler, bismuth makes sense, if you’re a hardcore waterfowler who puts months on the water & field…plus throw in being a broke & humble civil servant, you gotta shoot Steel. No other economical choice.

Thanks for the links. Much appreciated.

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There seem to have been spot component shortages, but commercial ammo sales were up, big, in 2020, and seem to be continuing that trend this year. Supposedly, shotgun sales, that had been slowly falling for years, were also up sharply last year. For all types of consumer firearms, firstime buyers are also way up, and they want ammo. I don't know RST's bottom line, but their sales may be up too, even though availability is regularly listed as out of stock.

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