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The modern farmer has it made...fertilize, spray and poison the weeds with a concoction of mixed weed killers a scientist couldn't hope to figure out.... followed by no till planting of genetically modified seed....maybe spray again with a concoction of mixed weed killers then.spray and poison every insect known to man a few tines then sit back and plAy on the computer all day until harvest time...did I miss anything Stan ?

And people wonder why we have no quail.

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Your ignorance constantly amazes me. It knows no bounds.


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Weber Weber, once again a great post on your forum is dragged into the sewer. What a damn shame.
The forum where we can all share knowledge, camaraderie, and brotherly love.
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider
Weber Weber, once again a great post on your forum is dragged into the sewer. What a damn shame.
The forum where we can all share knowledge, camaraderie, and brotherly love.
LOL.

Yeah, not sure what Stan’s and Ted’s problem is.

The urge to commercial hunt?

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You missed fungicides and insecticides Joe. True most chemical treatments are for weeds, but I have a huge bee operation at my place, and the keeper now figures he loses about 40% annually to colony collapse that times with applications of those chemicals. He in turn has to spray all his hives for throat mites and fungi. Most of the insects around my place have disappeared, along with several formerly common insectivorous birds. Gotta admit its nice to be in my garden and not be bothered with 'skeeters and deer flies.

Stan Triticale was just one of the grains agronomists were or are trying to breed to develop a stronger perennial habit. The effort must have failed as have not heard much about it for years. Yes they would also require fertilizer. You must live in an area with an entirely different agricultural system than the upper midwest. I don't know a single farmer that does not fertilize annually with urea or anhydrous N, even here in former grassland with some of the richest soils in the world. And many apply pellets with K and P also. OK they were not 'forced' to do it, they have to do it if they want a decent yield. Pre-emerge and post-emerge herbicides are a must. Very little 'new ground' around here as most of the homesteaders native pastures are long gone. But when the sod was first broken, yields were plentiful for many years and the native annual weeds were not much of a problem. One reason they called those in the ancient lake plains "Bonanza Farms.'

Don't know all the arguments of the 'the tree huggers and pro-organic people' as far as land use and feeding the world is concerned. But you are right as many are just wishful thinkers who propose a world that no longer exists or can exist. They remind me of those that use the term 'recyclable energy' as though Newton's Law does not apply to them like it does to the rest of us.

To stay on topic I believe the urge to hunt is an innate behavioral survival mechanism that has persisted in human males for a couple million years.

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Originally Posted by Hal
You must live in an area with an entirely different agricultural system than the upper midwest. I don't know a single farmer that does not fertilize annually with urea or anhydrous N, even here in former grassland with some of the richest soils in the world.

Hal, you need to read more carefully I guess. I dunno why you got the impression I live in an area that doesn't "fertilize annually". This is what I said, verbatim:

Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
While it is true that "new ground" yields much better the first year than older production soils, we fertilize to produce yields that are very high, higher than any new ground could ever produce without fertilizer.

Please note the small word "we", meaning, I'm included.

I may be looking at your posts through a telescope backwards but your phrases like "stronger perennial habit" screams catch phrases of the dreamers, to me. Either a plant is a perennial, or it's an annual. Dunno what you mean by "stronger perennial habit".

Anyway, enough of this. I hunt because I enjoy the challenge, the meat, and the elements. I don't have an urge. It's part of me, it's who I am. 'Nuff said.


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The "Spare the plow"...
"No till farmer" looking for the easy way out has decimated wild game populations nation wide.

Deep down you know it's true Stan.

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That statement is so far wrong I'm not even going to go to the trouble to point out all the errors. The typical armchair expert's "ideas". Someone else can correct you for awhile. I'm wearied of it.


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The American farmer has let the big chemical companies turn their agriculture fields into basically toxic waste dumps....

You know I'm right Stan....think back to when you were a real farmer or has it been so long you forgot.

When is the last time you cultivated a field Stan ?

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I guess I'll let the rancher who is kind enough to let me hunt on his no til land that his posion is not up to snuff. Thanks for the education frAnk. I'm amazed that the place is crawling with Sharptail, Prairie Chickens and Pheasants as well as both Whitetail and Mule Deer. Clearly the man is not doing something right.

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