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Back to research, 12b Hammer shotgun by Purdey, S/No. 1 - 6974 (the one means 1 of a pair). 30" damascus barrels. Rotary u/lever , Scroll engraving with Dolphin Hammers. Figured stock.Black powder proof. The makers confirmed that this gun was made in 1864, and converted from PINFIRE to centre fire in 1889. Jardine (Auctioneers Ltd) Dumfries. 30/09/1996. 12b Hammer Shotgun by Purdey, S/No. 6704. 30" Damascus barrels. Rotary U/Lever. Scroll engraving, with Dolphin Hammers, Highly figured stock. Black Powder Proof. Again, this came from 1864. I only got a fleeting glance at this, as the vendor withdrew the gun, after dispute with the cataloger.....it was my opinion then, that this gun also was a PINFIRE conversion to centre-fire. Jardine (Auctioneers Ltd) Dumfries 30/09/1996.
This small auction house only issued small catalogs, with no illustrations. I hope to be able to post you pictures in the near future, as we get into more modern catalogs
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Steve, to save me time, and to help focus on what you have not found, can you tell me if you have the results of the London Auction houses, and Southams,from 2000? Dave
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12b D/B Pinfire shotgun, By Wm. & Jn. Rigby. NVN. 28" Damascus barrels. Back action locks, signed and engraved with florid scrollsd and game dogs. The action scroll engraved en suite; some wear & light pitting, and left hammer missing. Generally very good. Weller & Dufty 07/11/1972
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Hi Steve, not sure wether I already sent you this one................]
"A high quality double barrelled 28 bore pifire RIFLE by Edward Paton, damascus 30" barrels, with 4 leaf express rear sight, bolted back action locks, nicely scroll engraved. Serial No. 2436. Grip type guard, chequered forend and wrist, nicely figured stock with cheekpiece, hammers not original, and tumbler pins missing. Otherwise very good crisp condition and working order" Weller & Dufty 07/12/1966
12b Double Barrelled pinfire shotgun by Wiiliam Moore & Grey. U/Lever NVN. 29" barrels. Scroll engraving Good quality, but worn and pitted. 03/10/1972 Weller & Dufty 12b Double Barrelled pinfire Belgian shotgun by MASU BROS. London & Liege.U/Lever Very good quality. Serial No.2775. Browned curly Damascus pattern 30" barrels, engraved with Makers name on rib. The locks and action body engraved with panels of scrolling foliage Figured stock with chequered wrist and forend. the guard and lever blacked. In fine and crisp condition.
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12b Westley Richards "Conversion from pinfire" . Bar in wood action. Serial No. 4437, on barrels. 30" nitro proof Damascus barrels. Westley Richards Patented Top Lever &GRIP SAFETY. Dark Figured Walnut stock polished chequered forend with horn tip. Reproofed London 1992, and recent full service.
16b Pinfire shotgun by Westley Richards.London Serial No. 2956 U/Lever. Twist barrels, borderline engraved back action locks, walnut straight hand stock, . Old repair to wrist. 30" barrels. Weller & Dufty 30/01/1973
Fine quality 70 bore double barrelled pinfire rifle. Serial No. 2508 by J. LANG. Browned barrels, the rib with three folding leaf rearsights and signed "J. LANG COCKSPUR STREET, LONDON. The under lever action, signed back action locks and Dolphin hammers engraved with best quality foliage. Engraved double grip trigger guard, figuered walnut stock chequered at the wrist and butt. Minor pitting to barrels etc. Barrels 30". Weller & Dufty LOT 777 10/09/2003. ILLUSTRATED
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Ivanhoe has kindly provided scanned images from Southams auction catalogues. Here are some pinfire game guns, to add to the guns already pictured in this thread and to our collective knowledge. Unfortunately, the catalogues do not list much information, but it is something. Some lucky persons now have these in their collections! 12-bore signed Robert Watmough of Manchester, 30" barrels: 12-bore signed Richard Jeffery of Guildford, 30" barrels: 12-bore signed Henry Tatham of London, 30" barrels (twist?). A fine looking gun with border engraving; Henry Tatham died in 1860 and the business closed then, so this is an early gun with the Beringer-inspired rearward-facing underlever, presumably with a single bite. 12-bore signed Westley Richards, 30" barrels. This is gun No. 11146, number one of a pair, completed on 6 October 1865 for Lord Mahon. Both the lateral top lever and the fore-end are numbered "1". It has the 170 New Bond St. address on the rib. Thank you, Ivanhoe!
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The Tatham barrels are Stub Twist and the WR "English 2 Stripe" Steve. Interesting gun with unusual (for a British maker) Bernard barrels, and I encouraged the poster to share here https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=534176
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Dave (Ivanhoe) is an excellent researcher and he has a library of 50 years of gun catalogs that need be preserved for research somehow, somewhere.
Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch
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The Watmough was one of mine sent for sale to Southams. If only I had known of this site years ago, I would have photographed every pinfire (and Reilly !) that I ever handled. C,est la vie! :-(
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The Watmough was one of mine sent for sale to Southams. If only I had known of this site years ago, I would have photographed every pinfire (and Reilly !) that I ever handled. C,est la vie! :-(
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