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Lovely straight-hand stock w/ swivels and skelton toplever & buttplate. Büchsenmacher Karl Körmes in Leipzig hung out his gunmaking shingle in 1797(Seventeen - Ninety Seven) and peddled quality wares.


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Büchsenmachermeister. Mechanische Büchsenmacherei, Fachgeschäft für feine Jagd- und Sportwaffen.

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I think the straight-hand stock is a replacement( very good work, though). It is just an impression, I didn't see a work order or payment receipt from a stockmaker, the metal looks "German working gun", the stock doesn't.
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It was replaced, original auction mentioned stock replacement. My 16 has toe and heel plates, this one has skeleton butt plate. Hopefully it has long trigger guard and was not switched to a straight stock. These two will make a nice pair. Same length barrels.
Will post details next week when it arrives, it’s mate is having wood refinished now. I will try to get cole to show me pics of inside of action, I really like these actions seem very strong and functional. I think scholberg used boehler and poldi barrels to boot. Actually I believe Raimey found that info years ago and I read it a while back. Record spezial stahl

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https://www.doublegunshop.com/forum...ds=Poldihutte&Search=true#Post146611

Poldi steel info. There was an exclusive Poldi Antikorro rep in Suhl and Baumgarten has a Brenneke Safety Drilling by him. I just can't remember for the moment.

https://www.metalbulletin.com/event...ker/6572/a0ID000000X0jdnMAB/Presentation

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I found it

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"........advert is und Paul Scholberg L�ttich. It notes that if you have spezial steel needs for sporting weapons, you will be well satisfied to source either Schilling or Scholberg. So, Carl Bittiner was a sourced for B�hler tube steel and I believe was at the same address as Paul Scholberg. V. Chr. Schilling was the only game in town early on for Poldi Antikorro and that is why we seen his initials on Baumgarten's Brenneke with Poldi Antikorro tubeset #280. I think these tubesets were sequential but don't know just how high the number grew. But Paul Scholberg was the source in Liege so if you have a sporting weapon with Poldi Antikorro tube steel proofed in Liege, the probability is very, very high that Paul Scholberg was sourced."

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http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=201734&page=2

Seems Bittiner & Scholberg cornered the Liege market for B�hler and Poldi tube steel. These fellas just may have been the source for the bulk of B�hler & Poldi steel tubes.

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Lovely effort. V. Chr. Schilling imported >>rough bored tubes<< from Liège and finished them.

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I think both Jaeger and Bittiner/Scholberg had a hard time selling this gun due to its non traditional action, based on what I have read. Oddly enough some of those same people who shared that information claimed that this action was indeed stronger and they had never seen one off face. I personally like these 2 guns first based on strength, but also the fences are amazingly carved, the bottom of the action has decent engraving with gold pigeon, the border engraving is just enough and of course this grade came with their best wood and embellished ( skeleton/ tipped toe and heal) butt.
I was surprised to see the bolsters( engraved wings) on the sides of the barrels, very similar to D.M Lefevers bolsters. See pic below
I think that the bolsters make up for the box like aesthetics of the action. Those fences combined with the bolsters draw my attention away from the squareness of the action.

Who copied who with the wing looking bolsters that I find very appealing?
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Mike I will purchase all the “ German working gun” actions that I can find that have fences like these and gold inlays. At the right price.
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Gun came in today, guy who stocked it was really good. 6lbs 15oz 30” barrel choked .042 .042 bores both .727, gun was original straight stock with 70mm chambers. Makes me think it was made later than I first thought. With the choke markings should be 1910-24 now I’m leaning toward the 1924 mark. Super happy with 1 1/2 x2 1/2 x 14.5” stock fits great! Will have Dean open right choke to .015 later other than that this one is field ready.
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Jtplumb,
The "working gun" comment wasn't an insult.
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