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Do you have to use boiling water to etch Damascus? Why wouldn’t warm water work? Perhaps just a longer process. I appreciate any help with these questions. Thank you, Richard
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Browning damascus barrels does not use boiling water, that will convert the brown oxide to black. Etching damascus is done with a reduced Ferric Chloride solution. I hope that helps, Steve
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Black Damascus was the original on LC Smith so I wanted to stay with it. I suppose black HAS to be boiled? Richard
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yes, to get black you will need to either boil in distilled water or use steam to convert to a black oxide.
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Thanks guys. I suppose if I used steam, which is easier for me, the process will take much longer. Do you guys know anyone that’s done this? Richard
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I don't think you are you going to steam the rust to black. I am pretty sure it requires boiling. Steam is generally used for getting the item to rust faster not turn the rust to black.
I could be wrong but that seems to be your real question which is can rust be turned black with steam or does it require boiling?
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I convert rust in a steam tube regularly, yes you can rust blue in a steam tube without boiling.
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Thanks for the correction
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Can someone clear my confusion. When etching do you replace the mixture each time after each etch, or use it repeatedly? If you dip it in a PVC tube doesn’t it eat the tube? Thanks Richard
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Use the same etching soln over and over. As long as you don't contaminate it somehow, it's still good. It doesn't seem to eat away at pvc. The tube I have it in has been in there for years.
Maybe it goes 'bad', but I haven't experienced that yet. Bottom pvc end cap glued into place. Top cap just sits on the top. I use a weak soln, about 2% by my estimation. Drop the bbl in and take it right back out again and immedietly flush the stuff off under running water. Then begin gently carding under the running water with x-fine steel wool.
Some people 'etch & card' once after 2 or more rust, boil & carding cycles that build color. Then again multiple rust, boil and carding cycles to build more color,,then one etch cycle w/carding and so on. (The Boiling if you want Black and White as opposed to Brown & White finish) Others, me included, etch & steelwool card after each rust, boil and carding.
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