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Lloyd3 #596862 05/13/21 11:22 AM
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In the $700 to $1100 range, for your purposes, I would prefer a low mileage 12 gauge Superposed field gun, a higher quality gun and easy to find in high condition. Don't buy a Superposed or Citori that flops open.

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Looking at a long-barreled Miroku at the moment. Anything to be concerned about there? It was clearly a trap gun and the chokes are pretty tight but... It seems to be low miles.

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I'd recommend you save yourself some grief and look at a new gun to start out with.

The Citori CXS line is a tremendous value.

Basic plain target guns with good dynamics, a good choke system, decent triggers (mine was 4.5 pounds as delivered), and quite acceptable wood for the price.

You're in the area of $2K.

Guns are in short supply everywhere right now but if you can find a CXS you'll be happy with it I'm sure.


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That CSX looks pretty good. That will certainly be where I'd go next if I find that I like this game.

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Good luck in your quest, Lloyd. I don’t have any really good suggestions, but, want to watch the topic to see where you end up. My focus was usually on the beer and barbecue that occurs at my club after the clays. In the past, I have used an O/U and an auto loader to position myself solidly for honors in mid pack. smile
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Let us know where you end up.

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Originally Posted by eightbore
In the $700 to $1100 range, for your purposes, I would prefer a low mileage 12 gauge Superposed field gun, a higher quality gun and easy to find in high condition. Don't buy a Superposed or Citori that flops open.

There's one at the Lonetree Cabela's for $900 something (or at least there was last week).

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Well, I found a used lefty SKB 90TSS that a fellow traded-in to the dealer he bought it from new (he traded-up). It's theoretically had less than two flats of shells through it and I've been reassured that it has none of the Turkish-gun issues I'd been concerned about. Time will tell, of course. I'd been otherwise focused on a very low-miles, Superior Grade 32-inch tubed Miroku trap gun until this one came along. Great price, nice gun but...not a clays gun and not left-handed.

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Be aware that there have been some very serious barrel regulation issues with that model, Lloyd. Top barrel is often spot on but the bottom will not be. Try to get an agreement that you can return it if this is the case with it, or maybe pattern test it before buying.


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Stan: I had read that as well and pointedly asked the individual that I'm dealing with about it. I have a shooting inspection period of 3 days to confirm the regulation of the tubes and to confirm that the Turkish trigger isn't a problem either. This dealer has been selling these for something like 10-years now and he stated that he's never had a problem with them along those lines. I guess we'll see. I wouldn't have gone this route except for all the southpaw-friendly components this gun was built with. After a lifetime of contortions to shoot right-handed guns, it's a real treat to have something that truly fits. Hopefully, it's worth all the trouble.

Do you have any first hand experience with this model by any chance? I'd be curious to hear if you know any other owners as well. I'm managing my expectations on this one, for sure.

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Have you tried to find an older (90’s early 2000’s) SKB 505 or Weatherby Orion ( same gun...different stock shapes and has slab sides)???? I picked my last one up for $500 in great condition. Bomb proof. Tough as nails. Field dimensions which can translate into sporting clays, and best of all, parts are readily available. Chokes are also readily available. I use Trulocks on mine and I use my SKB as a duck gun. It’s a beast.
I just can’t bring myself to invest/like/want a Turkish gun. They give me the heebeejeebees. :-)

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