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Same here Bernardelli 12ga/5.6x50R Mag BRNO 12ga/5.6x52R(22 Savage Highpower)
Last edited by oskar; 04/13/21 06:57 PM.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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Simpson LTD always has some drillings in stock and seem to get more imports regularly. Good one are priced fair but go quick, you have to check daily.
My problem lies in reconciling my gross habits with my net income. - Errol Flynn
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I will agree with Ford that a 30-06 chambering will get finicky and I have shot a good bit of 9,3X62 thru one without any issue, but in the end it could have some problems. 8X57IRS along with 7X65R are probably the 2 easiest to acquire factory ammo.
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Thanks guys. Lots of good information here. I definitely will be looking for a 16ga over a rimmed rifle cartridge.
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Jason, I addressed German Gun Imports because you asked about them. Recoil Rob mentioned Simpson Ltd. , They are also a viable alternative and I have dealt with them before. Be sure to read the description carefully. If they sell you something that is not as described, they will take it back without a problem, if you call. They sell them "as received" and describe any problem they observe. The German partner in German Gun Imports is a gunsmith and I believe he either doesn't accept those with functional problems or repairs small ones. I believe S&B imports 6.5x57R, 7x57R, 8x57IR, 8x57IRS, 7x65R, 9.3x72R, and 9.3x74R. Their cases are boxer primed and are fully reloadable with American components. Reloading dies are available as production items and custom made dies are not required. Dies for the rimless versions are useable just by using the correct shell holder. I use 7x64 dies to load 7x65R, and 6.5x57, 7x57 to load the rimmed version. I use Lyman 8mm Mauser dies to load 8x57I ,8x57IS, 8x57IR, 8x57IRS, 8x57R/360, and 8x72R. I do this by removing the expander stem for the .318 " cartridges and de-prime by hand. Handloading any of these is straight forward, once you have cases and bullets, so don't worry about that. Mike
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I would like to shime in with a few words about my personal preferences. First, I avoid drillings with Greener safeties, because I find them virtually impossible to manipulate with gloves on, and most of my hunting is done with gloves on. Secondly, I would avoid the Krieghoff "Seperatekugelspannung" (seperate rifle barrel cocking) in favor of another system once offered by Krieghoff and Sauer, which uses a lever on the left side of the action, leaving the top of the pistol grip free for the safety, which operates like that of an ordinary double barrel shotgun. I used to really enjoy walking around my property with a drilling, ready for anything that appeared, but age and neuropathy in both feet have made that impossible, so I am pretty much confined to a blind. Before becoming handicapped, however, I was walking down a logging road on my property late in the season, when I spotted a small herd of does in the woods to my right. For some inexplicable reason, they decided to cross the logging road directly in front of me. My J. P. Sauer sidelock 12/12/8X57JRS was loaded with a rifle cartridge and two shotgun slugs and the daily limit then as now was three deer, only one of which could be antlered. I took the opportunity to fire all three barrels. I wish I could report that I scored on all three shots, but only the deer struck by the rifle bullet remained in sight on the ground. A tracking dog might have turned up more, but using dogs for deer hunting was and is illegal in Tennessee. This is the cocking device on my Sauer drilling, easily activated with the left hand. [img]https://hosting.photobucket.co...=960&height=720&fit=bounds[/img]
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xausa, I feel for you brother, I too can only hunt from a blind now, and even then only one I can drive to. I never have a problem with a Greener safety, I didn't even before I became "lame". I just held the gun so my thumb pushed it into the stock as it also pushed forward( this is hard to describe, but once learned is easy). Some people have put a "lever" on the button, but this makes it subject to being accidently moved to the "Off" position. In my Krieghoff 16x16-7x65R, the greener safety only works for the shot barrels, and the rifle selector works also as the safety( but doesn't cock it), so for the rifle, only the selector on the tang has to be activated. I have a hand warmer that straps around my waist and don't wear gloves anyway. I really miss following a bird dog around. Mike
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xausa,
Some people have put a "lever" on the button, but this makes it subject to being accidentally moved to the "Off" position. Mike My 16x16/8x57 Nimrod. It's very stiff. It may not be a Greener, it feels more like it's lifting against a cam and then "rolls" over. I showed it to Dietrich Apel several years ago at a Vintagers, he thought it interesting enough to document with photos.
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My Sauer hammer drilling is 16X16X11.15X65. The rifle cartridge is a big long .44 caliber variation that is pretty common but hard to find cases for. I have a bag of cases, so I am set for life. It will put a big hole in anything you shoot with it. The top lever selects the rifle barrel and a side lever opens the gun. The rifle barrel is a perfect fit for a 2 1/2" .410, which is exactly 65MM, same as the rifle cartridge. The gun handles the .410s very nicely and doesn't lead up badly at all. I recently let a friend strip, refinish, and point up the checkering. This resulted in a very fancy piece of Juglans Regia, not characteristic of an early Sauer. The Krupp steel gun was made around 1905. A friend sold me this little gem for $200 because he had no practical use for it.
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