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#595338 04/11/21 02:16 PM
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I've had to re-create this thread twice because I managed to fat-finger my keyboard somehow.....expletive deleted!!!! Don't remember this being a problem in the older system here. Going forward, when the mood strikes to write something I'll be saving in !@#$%$$$## stages (more expletives deleted). One last time.... I've never had much time for target guns for a number of reasons, the biggest being financial (to be truthful) but also because as a more non-standard shooter (southpaw and central vision) I'd found that stackbarrels don't much work for me. I also had largely come to the conclusion that clay games were the realm of softer and older folks who wouldn't (or couldn't) hunt. Fast forward to yesterday, which found me strolling along at a local club with two associates, blazing away. Now, I was the baby of the bunch by at least a few years but clearly...I'm fast on my way to becoming a codger-in-training. I'd even managed to show up with a mostly empty (only one set of barrels) in a 2- barreled gun case, In my defense, I'd had several distractions (a few Margareta's for dinner the night before, combined with a dead primary SUV 1st thing in the morning (because of an unclosed passenger door)) which does tend to disturb my inner-peace, but I digress. Instead of the small-gauge event we'd loosely planned, I ending up shooting a borrowed and monstrous Turkish 12-bore target gun w/no safety and 32-inch, ported and choke-tubed barrels. I fit me very poorly (mostly because it had been adjusted for a severely righthanded shooter) but to my surprise, I seemed to shoot it fairly well. There was a corporate event at the range that we'd been unaware of, so we were confined to the back-half of the course where all the targets were clearly....more difficult. No matter, I some how managed to solve most of those target situations with aplomb. I'd hate to have to lug this beast over hill and dale, and I'd like to think that my standard Spanish 12-bore side-lock would have served me almost as well but....the expression about "horses for courses" does seem to apply here. Is there such a thing as a "reasonable" target gun out there for us south paws? And by reasonable, I mean seriously dirt-cheap as I'm unconvinced that I'll ever get much use out of it.

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No, it would not have Lloyd. You would been beat up with a game gun like you describe. Weight is your friend on a Sporting Clays gun, assuming it's in the correct places. Sounds like you've been bitten.

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Are you talking trap, or other stuff?
Given your parameters, for trap, it is going to be hard to beat an older BT99, Lloyd. Hell, there are take-off stocks for sale for the things on the sites, that could be whittled to a bit closer to your dimensions. Seems like 1-2K would get you to look like a regular on any club field, not cheap, but, cheaper than most anything else.

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Ted,
Pay attention now. He said they were "confined to the back half of the course". Sporting Clays.
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Lloyd,
To your question, no, there isn't. Assuming your talking about an O/U.
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Well....maybe. After 100 shells it hardly felt like I'd done anything, except maybe have a good walk. My mid-70s aged shooting companion has a little cart to shove things around on (both the guns and the ammo) making even that bridge-timber seem fairly portable. My Arrieta does seem to leave me a bit battered after that many shots. This CZ I was shooting wasn't nearly as badly built as I had expected. Any feedback here on the seriously cheap options I might have? At $100 a pop for both the targets and the shells, I can't see this as being a regular activity. Maybe 10 years ago, but not now given the world we're currently occupying.

Ted: this was sporting clays, which at least begins to mimic real hunting conditions. I guess I'd thought target guns were target guns...how silly of me.

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Paul Roberts persuaded me to buy a second hand B. Rizzini Sporter, and I haven’t regretted the decision. You could do worse if you can find a tidy one second hand.
B. Rizzini supply spare stocks, and their barrels interchange without gunsmithing.

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Beretta 682 or Browning Citori (?725).


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I think if your buddies are regulars on the sporting clays range, ask them to keep on the watch for any club member or aqaintance guns that become available, and consider them on an individual basis. I would not imagine or hope that it would have cross usefulness in the field, except maybe for blind hunting.

Also, it was a great thing that you could find shells, but that might not be regularly so. Maybe, build your stash when you can and not wait for the gun if you figure it's happening anyway. Maybe, shoot your field guns for now, and possibly a better value will come with some patience, good luck with it.

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Going with a used gun can drastically change the cost of a target gun. Clay shooters are notorious for trying to buy a higher score by swapping guns, many of which may be only broken in good. For example, my first Perazzi was an Ithaca imported MX 8 that I got for $1800, about 16 years ago. I shot it for a year or two and had the opportunity to buy a Winchester imported MX 8 with much less usage for $2550, AIR. I'm still shooting it. Bargains come along from time to time. The trick is to have enough expendable cash on hand at any time to not have to pass on a bargain when it comes along. For me that means not shopping around for guns to buy at "market prices".


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