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OK, skeettx and others, take a look of the flats at https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/merkel-proof-marks.901399/

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Bingo



1968 West Germany (BDR) updated the proof laws according to the international standard.

https://www.shotguns.se/html/west_germany.html

#3 on the bottom half of the proof map.

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Bird with V

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Thanks, Mike. I was thinking the mark under the bird was its feet held together, but the V makes sense. However, the date range for the #3 mark says 1968-1971. My gun date is Feb, 1994. Oh well, no need to beat a dead horse. Dave

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There must be a letter under the Federal Eagle so it looks to be a poorly stamped >>V<< for Forced/Magnum(voluntary submission) proof.


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Yep, it's a V and not the bird's feet. One other thing, if the 16.0 represents bore diameter then that's 0.630" The data says 0.615" is standard for 20 ga. Overbored?

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OK, now what about the VZ on the right barrel? I vote for Verbessert(?) Zylinder(?) or Improved Cylinder . This matches what would be common with a half choke left barrel.
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Correct, Mike. According to the literature I have, most if not all 147's in 20 ga were/are choked IC & mod. My gun has the straight hand stock and splinter forend. Weighs less than 6# and kicks the snot out of me. But that's another chapter.

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Two possibilities, if it kicks the snot out of you.
It doesn't fit you, or you use heavy loads.
I shoot 7/8 ounce target loads at 1150 roughly, and 1 ounce at 1200 for hunting.
My 20 gauge AyA and my Beretta 687 are 5 pounds 15 ounces. I have no problem with 100 rounds of target loads at Sporting Clays. I do have a pad for Clays.

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I have a more recent 47E 20ga that's factory choked skeet and IC. The open chokes are one reason I like it.

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Originally Posted by Saskbooknut
Two possibilities, if it kicks the snot out of you.
It doesn't fit you, or you use heavy loads.
I shoot 7/8 ounce target loads at 1150 roughly, and 1 ounce at 1200 for hunting.
My 20 gauge AyA and my Beretta 687 are 5 pounds 15 ounces. I have no problem with 100 rounds of target loads at Sporting Clays. I do have a pad for Clays.

Larry, you are most likely correct. But ....... I have a 20 ga Superposed (RKLT) that weighs about two ounces more than the Merkel and I can shoot it all day without a recoil issue, mostly skeet. The stock dimensions are the same except that the Browning has a tad more pitch. I made and installed a wedge under the butt plate on the Merkel to make them the same. I've also loaded some 3/4 oz shells (14.5 gr Green Dot for about 1,200 fps) but have not had a chance to shoot it after these changes because of a combination of crazy club hours (Covid), bad weather, home projects, etc.

The one fundamental difference between the guns is that the Browning has a POW grip and field style forend whereas the Merkel has a straight had stock and splinter forend. There's not much wood to grab on the Merkel. We shall see.........

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