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the horror...the absolute horror...


keep it simple and keep it safe...
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I cut down an 1882 Remington! It is for my bar, We call it the "Bar Sweeper"
Really it was a parts gun that Rick and I decided would fit into the bar decor, complete with our brand on the stock!
I had never handled a Sawed Off Shotgun before--it is an interesting change!
I then looked up some famous ones from the movies. Unforgiven, Tombstone, Billy the Kid......

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There is nothing quite like a 10 gauge with barrels chopped to 20" with heavy loads of BP and shot. My cowboy load is 120 grains of either 1F or 2F, whichever is cheapest and 1 1/2 oz of shot and on some stages I'll pull both triggers at the same time. laugh


I have become addicted to English hammered shotguns to the detriment of my wallet.
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I shot one that a guy who was in college with me had. It nearly jumped out of my hands!

The owner was a bit eccentric, to say the least. He had screwed a leather strap, as a shell holder, onto the interior of his Barracuda's driver door, to hold two extra shells.

Always wondered what he was doing in college anyway, as he seemed to have a promising career ahead of him at the "Greybar Hotel".

Eddie Lee Walker, a black man who worked for my family on the farm for almost his entire life used to say "Boss man, I can take one of those into a juke on a Saturday night and bring peace out of confusion".

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Well my point was... if it hadn’t been chopped up would it have sold for that much???

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Hacksaw work at its finest. Just wish they limited that type work to Crescents and other hardware guns. Maybe it’s the rail screwed onto the barrel for a flashlight that drove up the price. Bubba mostly uses duct tape or electrical tape if he can’t find the duct(duck) tape to attach the flashlight.

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Back in the early '70's, Franklin's Gun Shop there in Athens, GA ordered in a batch of "factory sawed-offs". These were Spanish guns branded "Erbi" and manufactured with 18" cylinder bore barrels and 3" chambers. The gun wasn't beautiful or well balanced, but it was the darnedest killing machine I've ever owned; I just couldn't miss with that gun! Then there was the Saturday when my B-I-L went bunny hunting and got rained out, so we returned to the in-laws; and being young, bored, and stoopid began looking for something to occupy our time. As we wiped down our guns we remembered that the Erbi had 3" chambers, and that we just happened to have on hand a box of Win. max load 3" shells loaded with 2 oz. of #2 shot; so the dares began. Bet you won't shoot two of those at the same time; I will if you will; etc., and we did. So we stepped into the back yard and my bigger and stronger B-I-L went first. At the blast gun muzzles went straight up and recoil knocked him backwards about a half step; so it was my turn. Other than not being knocked flat no my back, all I remember is that my right shoulder was instantly numb at the shot and I lost the grip in my right hand which resulted in my fingers being skinned by the triggers as the gun twisted and fell. When feeling returned, I examined my little Erbi and noticed that the bottom side of the left barrel was swelled at the end of the chamber. God was watching over this fool that day.

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When a shotgun seems to be nearing the end of it's useful lifespan, this was rather commonly encountered in the world I grew up in. It was largely confined to pump guns in that time (& perhaps still) but... I'm sure a few lesser doubles were on the receiving end of that "treatment" as well. Active and even retired law enforcement seemed to be common practitioners of the "art". It wasn't just the bad guys...

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I fired a 12 ga gun that was cut off like that. It recoiled terribly and kicked up so hard it hit me it the forehead. Hope that one found its way to a dumpster...

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