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#590443 01/21/21 03:38 PM
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besides ithaca and fox, what other american makers used krupp barrels?

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In England, both Purdey and Edwinson Green at least.

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LeFever and L.C. Smith- after 1917 and the Lusitania, not so many-- RWTF


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Syracuse Arms and Hollenbeck Gun Co. And LC Smith didn't catalog Krupp barrels after 1905; but I've seen an Ideal Grade and an A2 Grade with Krupp barrels, both produced during WWI. On the Ideal the Krupp trademark had been over-stamped "London Steel". With the A2 the shipping records noted the barrel steel type as being "Krupp", but the Krupp trademarks on the bottom of the tubes had been carded off; and atop the barrels Hunter had engraved the words "Monogram Steel". Who knows but I suspect German products might not have been held in high esteem during WWI, therefore trademarks were either obscured or removed.

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1918 16g Field with Krupp over-stamped with Armor Steel

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As Bro. Tom said, Krupp barrels were cataloged by Hunter Arms as an available option only 1900-1905.
It seems likely that Krupp was licensed to Cockerill Sambre, as Fluss Stahl Krupp Essen marked tubes stamped with the "ACL" of Acier Cockerill Liegeoise or with “LLH” of Laurent Lochet-Habran are found on some U.S. maker's barrels.

The first Lefever with Krupp steel barrels was in 1894. c. 1904 B, C, D & E grades were offered with Krupp steel.

About 1906 the Baker R (replacing the A grade) was available with Krupp steel.

As mentioned, the 1910 Meriden Firearms Co. catalog shows the following grades and barrels:
A with Whitworth, Krupp, or 6-blade damascus for $250 with AE;
B with Krupp or 6-blade for $185 with AE;
C with Krupp or 4-blade for $110 with AE;
D "Trap Gun" with Krupp or 3-blade for $90 with AE;
E "Quail Gun" with Krupp and ONLY 16G for $60 (no AE offered);
F with Krupp or 3-blade for $60 with AE;
G with Krupp for $40.

The Meriden Tournament grade had Krupp in the Sears 1915 and 1917 catalogs

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and the Meriden Ejector No. 35

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Ithaca Flues No. 2 and higher offered Krupp in 1913.

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1917 and 1924 Janney, Semple, Hill & Co., Minneapolis catalogs Krupp starts with No. 3

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collecting krupp barrelled guns would be an interesting specialty...


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Baker Gun and Forging Co. used Krupp barrels on several models.

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J. Stevens A&T Co. used them. My Model 375 has Krupp tubes.

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I have been told that Krupp barrels where sold here in Brit land under the name of 'Siemens Steel."


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