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I purchased a CZ Bobwhite G2 for my boy about a year ago that might be a decent candidate. Heavy enough to use on waterfowl with steel shot, it even has choke tubes. We've used it a couple of times at the local clays range and it performed admirably. He's interested, but not driven, so it mostly sits idle (cars, girls and his cellphone seem to hold more sway these days). Two triggers, English grip and a splinter for not much money (~$600). I had to get the triggers worked on by CZ under warranty (too heavy) but they did a good job on it.

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Would like to add that with me yesterday shooting with two other gentlemen. One was shooting a Hussey and the other a 1880's Brewster 28 gauge hammer gun.
To add even further, a few months back my friend was shooting his Brewster and the forearm loop fell off causing the forearm to fall and chip the forearm. He was lucky to find all the pieces.
This guy told me yesterday over the last few years he has spent 3k at his gunsmith.


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Originally Posted by PALUNC
Would like to add that with me yesterday shooting with two other gentlemen. One was shooting a Hussey and the other a 1880's Brewster 28 gauge hammer gun.
To add even further, a few months back my friend was shooting his Brewster and the forearm loop fell off causing the forearm to fall and chip the forearm. He was lucky to find all the pieces.
This guy told me yesterday over the last few years he has spent 3k at his gunsmith.


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Yes, old guns require some maintenance and yes this can cost money. If you buy a low mileage older gun that has not been monkeyed with and take care of it you move the odds in your favor dramatically. Do any of you have own or have friends who own either horses or sailboats? If so, ask them what they spend in a year supporting the hobby of thier choosing and be prepared to gag at the answer they give you. All hobbies cost money in my experience, some more than others. If you wish to shoot a vintage gun at sporting clays then choose wisely and take care of it. You will likely be pleased with your choice. I have been shooting a 20's vintage H&H in the field over my Springers for years, something I do not regret in the least.


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I appreciate the feedback. I readily accept the handicaps of my choices. I know there are other options out there, the Perazzi DC etc. I have seen a lot of guys shooting BSS and CZ target guns, they just don't appeal to me.


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Originally Posted by SKB
Yes, old guns require some maintenance and yes this can cost money. If you buy a low mileage older gun that has not been monkeyed with and take care of it you move the odds in your favor dramatically. Do any of you have own or have friends who own either horses or sailboats? If so, ask them what they spend in a year supporting the hobby of thier choosing and be prepared to gag at the answer they give you. All hobbies cost money in my experience, some more than others. If you wish to shoot a vintage gun at sporting clays then choose wisely and take care of it. You will likely be pleased with your choice. I have been shooting a 20's vintage H&H in the field over my Springers for years, something I do not regret in the least.

Firearms, especially older ones, are rather cheap in reality as they can easily be sold when you wish to recoup most, all, or maybe even more than the money you paid for them. Try that with a set of golf clubs. Not happening.

Nitrah, I'm with you on the BSS and CZs. You could throw the Ithaca SKB's in that group too (of which I have 2). For me, they are just place holders until I find something better to replace them. They do shoot admirably however.


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I bought the DC12 over two years ago and haven’t regretted selling the 6 Parkers to get it. The trouble with vintage guns is they’re old and if shot enough need attention. Everyone knows this. Plus the guns would never fit me and I’d have them restocked. Mo money, mo money. I got tired of fixing them etc. As far as getting your money out of a vintage SxS, good luck. It’s a buyers market, when someone finally buys. Beretta makes a A nice modern SxS. I’ve heard parts for the BSS are getting hard to come by and Browning no longer supports it.

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A gun with a high reliability and will work as regular as night follows day, low price repair though not really needing repairs. I do bereave there is a a gun maker that fits all of this requirement , though only their models from the 1950 s to the late 1970 s. I do own one of these offerings neither the guns first owner myself and the two sons have been able to cause it to falter in any way in its very overused seventy years of life. Though there is one down side on the horizon for this gun, the way things are going officialdom will put an end to its usable life is if they make steel shot compulsory though we may give it a try. It's not French. USA. German, Brit, or Scandinavian offering, it is the Russian Baikal either configuration side by side or over under they are all built like the proverbial stone built outhouse and if it should happen that the ammunition run out the gun could be used as a very serviceable club. In the realms of what if's I have always wondered what design of shotgun would Mikhail Kalashnikov have come up with?


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Don't worry about steel in your Baikal even with full and half chokes. I have used Gamebore 32g of No.5 steel this summer in all 6 of my Baikals for pigeons with the occasional 36g of No.4 for geese with no problem at all. Admittedly,one of the O/U's is the multichoke 3" chamber but I still used 1/2 and 3/4 choke in that. Getting a good fibre wad is, and will be the problem but in the meantime the plaswads will give you the bore protection you need. However I still intend to gather a goodly supply of lead cartridges to see out my final years after the ban. There is hope that clay shooters will be allowed lead so 28g of Continental 7 1/2 would do very nicely for pigeons.


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[quote=Ky Jon] If I wanted to shoot 7/8 ounce loads I’d get a 20. {/quote]

Amen, and Amen!

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