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Didn't get your point because you did a poor job of trying to make it. I disagree with you on just about everything you post. Your misguided generalizations are inflammatory and offensive to those of us who are actually rational about the issues. Some of us can actually recognize and evaluate both sides of an argument. Your ideology only seems to allow you a single perspective.

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Well you can't take a compliment can you. Sorry if you get burned by my generalizations, but I don't see you out there going against the grain on the other side. At all. Why is that? Perhaps another generalization would be appropriate? I'll pass but the thing is, the number of people who are actually rational about the issues is far outweighed by those who are not. That's the world you created when you put that POS in the White House.


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Originally Posted By: BrentD
....Look at you! You toller at no other view point except your own repressive dogma.

You are so damn wrong you haven't got the first clue of what or who you are talking about. Yet you follow an orange orangutan with a religious cult-like zeal. Believing every word he says, even when he contradicts himself with yet another lie.

You worship a Hollywood celebrity who is nothing more than a spoiled rich brat that has cheated and lied his way through life from the beginning. He is the sort of person you idolize? He is your role model? Your leader? You are the one that is nuts.

If you didn't figure this out before 2016, is certainly has to be clear now as we see what he has done to make CV19 as bad as possible in the USA and how he has deserted his job while continuing to whine and play golf in the last months of his presidency.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Do you have the capability of seeing the country and the world beyond the bubble of academia?

My anecdotal story, I have a daughter who currently has dropped out of a good name, large university to take a promising work position. She can see all her friends and aquaintences around her in school with little direction to head in, and poor preparation from the institution.

My wife and I would support her whatever path she choses, but I am particularly proud of her strengths and independence. She values her education and highlights the beauty of you and your lefty buddies demonizing covid. A kid can get an Ivy league piece of paper....online. She will finish a year later than originally planned, with a secretary processing her online requirements, spared sitting through endless lefty political diatribes.

We didn't try to influenece how she voted, but insisted she did. She actually looked into issues that were important to her, and ironically her lefty peers, and she did good.

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University of Phoenix or Trump U?


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Craig, "demonizing covid"?? Is there somrthing good to be said about it that we're missing? Maybe you mean some of us exaggerate the seriousness. Tell that to the 325,000 who've died of it. Most on this site are in the group m ost vulnerable. Our brilliant new Republican legislature wants to meet in person without masks. All politicians need to stand for something, but why make a stand for stupidity?


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I'm not convinced that the election was free and clear of any monkey business. A congressional district battle that is still ongoing in Upstate New York provided evidence that dead people voted. It clearly went on. Enough to change the results? Most likely not. It's happening in Georgia right now. "Vote early and often" was around long before Trump.

I really believe many voted against Trump rather than for Biden. I also think many Republicans voted for Biden but voted Republican the rest of their ballot. It may explain why Republicans gained many seats in the House, and kept Senate seats that the media and the "experts" told us they would lose.

The good news is, it was a loud rejection of socialism. With the President/VP, I think people voted with emotion rather than logic. But, just like when you buy that new car you really didn't need or want, buyer's remorse will soon set in and you realize there was nothing really wrong with the vehicle you traded in.

Democrat voters? Well, they will vote for a talking dog if it has a D next to their name. As much as they hate the terms "low information voter" and "sheeple" they keep providing evidence and voting patterns to justify those terms.

With luck, the Republicans will win one or both of the run-offs in Georgia. I have my doubts. Truth be told all four of them are unworthy of a Senate seat.

But if the Republicans win one or both, at least they can keep Biden and Harris in check and some of the lunacy at bay. This will give the country plenty of time to see that Biden is not up to the task and why he was rejected in 1988 and 1992. It will also remind everyone why Harris was the first one to drop out of the primaries.

Finally, we have to demand better. We need to stop voting for the "first this or first that" and get back to electing qualified people with real leadership and management skills and experience. Black, white, or striped like a zebra I don't care. As long as they are the best qualified person for the job. Imagine that.

Biden/Harris should be one and done and hopefully new, energetic, and qualified leadership will emerge in 2024.

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Originally Posted By: BrentD

You should be ashamed of yourself.


Don't presuppose they are capable of it Brent.


I don't, but he should be. And others as well.

craigd, I understand the world outside of academia just fine. I go out in it every day. I am happy for your daughter, what's your point?


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OMW, You sound like an intelligent person, but you spout the right-wing dogma of the committed cultist. Any warm body who can't see through Trump by now has surrendered his brain to the Barnum and Bailey. Since the election was "stolen", I suggest you send all your money to Trump so that he can continue to pretend he was cheated and bilk his followers to fund his defense and pay his debts. From where we are, we can only get better.


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Bill:

I don't know you outside of this board. I am far from right-wing and certainly not a committed cultist. I consider myself a moderate on social issues, and conservative in most others.

Like many, I had hoped that Trump would have entered the Oval Office, saw the scope of what he had gotten into, toned down his "act" and elevated his game into the role. In many ways he did, and in many ways he didn't. I never said the election was stolen. I merely pointed out that some monkey business occurred, but clearly not enough to swing it one way or another. I also believe that yes, it is occurring in Georgia.

Like I said, people voted with emotion over logic. They voted against Trump rather than for Biden. Biden is an equally flawed person. It is not a Republican talking-point to say that he is a career politician with no significant accomplishments over a 47 year period. Sure, he was VP for eight years. But people quickly forgot that he was basically hidden away by Obama. Even the media joked back then "Where's Joe?"

When Obama had the opportunity to kill Osama bin Laden, Biden was the only guy in the room who advised against it. Even Hillary was for it. That speaks volumes about a potential Commander in Chief. Trump for his part kept his promise that he would not engage in unnecessary wars or skirmishes. Even though I'm sure that people like Bolton tried to talk him into one or two.

I also said that we have to demand better of our candidates. We should not be electing people because it is "their turn," the first this or the first that, or the lesser of two evils. We should be choosing and voting for people who are qualified for the job, command and earn respect, our trust, and we are proud of.

I don't have high hopes for Biden. He is flawed, he is weak, not too bright, and if the ties to China are in fact true he is unfit to be President. Be honest, why did the media and the left beat the Russian collusion chase to death yet Biden gets a pass? Harris is far too agenda driven and polarizing. Again, she was the first to drop out in the primaries. If people liked her she would not have polled at 1%.

So, I don't see much hope and love over the next four years. I just see more division, more anger, and more harmful rhetoric from the left. I think the old guard needs to go away and enjoy their millions and we need to seek and find new and energetic leadership. Someone who believes in our country, promotes our greatness rather than flaws, and can truly unite us. In some ways Trump actually did some of that, but because the left and the media could never come to terms with his win in 2016, they did everything in their power to exploit his many flaws and help him fail.

Anyway, just the opinion of a veteran, patriot, and citizen who is concerned over the direction this great country is headed. It's not too late to fix it, but tired retreads are not the answer.

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OMW, I appreciate your position. As a conservative you've come to see that your party has abandoned any policy but full speed ahead down a dead end road. I think Trump was so far outside the norm that the Democrats felt a career party faithful with lots of experience was the best way to put an end to chaos. They were right. Getting rid of Trump was the overriding need. Biden may not be inspiring, but he can heal some of the division that Trump creates. If the R's could walk away from Trump now, they might begin to rebuild what he's trashed. I share your concerns if not your affiliation. Give Biden a chance; he is at the very least a decent, steady presence.


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