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Originally Posted By: canvasback
....Bill, you liar. The Dems spent the last 4 years absolutely refusing to accept Trump as "their" president and making stuff up at every turn (Can you say Russian Collusion?) in an effort to negate the electoral will of the people who voted Trump into office....

Whoa, I am offended. They were fighting for the myth of the existential threat, and respecting jo's privacy to deal with hunt's alleged kiddie porn, incestuous, stripper, drug fueled amnesia binges. Oops, where did that come from, am I starting a resume for running as a dementia dem for school board and swim coach?

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Originally Posted By: nca225
Oh the phantom fraud, the phantom fraud.

Hey CB, care to comment on how these actions are in line with your highly espoused principles of Democracy?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasrei...sh=146d7e10ce2b



Would I care to comment? Sure.

I have no problem with Trump checking with the military if there appears to be a coup underway perpetrated by widespread, organized cheating at the polls. No problem whatsoever. I also think the perps of said coup, if proven to have been attempted, should be tried on charges of treason.

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Originally Posted By: BrentD
....now you are making stuff up. Of course the Russians were involved in helping Trump win in '16. That's not debatable (except by surrealists). Whether Trump had anything to do with it, is open for debate....

So, are you saying that it was not russia that sold the dossier to you gal hill's campaign. Maybe, it was made in china, where they do all those big investments with hunt? Or, maybe it was made up on social media, like how your dementia compromised hero was duped into appointing an executive to make progressive policy for the simpleton followers?

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Originally Posted By: canvasback
Originally Posted By: nca225
Oh the phantom fraud, the phantom fraud.

Hey CB, care to comment on how these actions are in line with your highly espoused principles of Democracy?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasrei...sh=146d7e10ce2b



Would I care to comment? Sure.

I have no problem with Trump checking with the military if there appears to be a coup underway perpetrated by widespread, organized cheating at the polls. No problem whatsoever. I also think the perps of said coup, if proven to have been attempted, should be tried on charges of treason.


And then the reverse is true isn't it? If there is no fraud and they attempt to use the military to overturn the election and the democratically implemented will of the people, I guess its treason for all those who support that action right CB?

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Oh the phantom fraud, the phantom fraud.

Hey CB, care to comment on how these actions are in line with your highly espoused principles of Democracy?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasrei...sh=146d7e10ce2b



Would I care to comment? Sure.

I have no problem with Trump checking with the military if there appears to be a coup underway perpetrated by widespread, organized cheating at the polls. No problem whatsoever. I also think the perps of said coup, if proven to have been attempted, should be tried on charges of treason.


And then the reverse is true isn't it? If there is no fraud and they attempt to use the military to overturn the election and the democratically implemented will of the people, I guess its treason for all those who support that action right CB?


Of course.

I hope you weren't thinking you had lured me into some ethical trap and it was a gotcha moment. LOL

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Originally Posted By: canvasback
Brent. The whole point of the Russian thing was to demonstrate COLLUSION between the Russians and Trump. We all know the Russians, and other parties try to interfere in elections. What counts is when one of the candidates is involved. And despite the best efforts of the swamp, no such connection could be made.

Next.


You don't get to "next" when you have the wrong answer CB.

https://time.com/5572821/donald-trump-russia-contacts/


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Originally Posted By: BrentD
cb, now you are making stuff up. Of course the Russians were involved in helping Trump win in '16. That's not debatable (except by surrealists). Whether Trump had anything to do with it, is open for debate, but not the fact that they were doing more than crossing their fingers that Trump would win.

And then there is the current election. Again, you know, we all know, it was won straight up. There are no creditable statistical or other evidence to the contrary. Let's just get over that one and move on.

You don't want to be the very thing you are labeling others. If you keep up that charade, you are.




Brent, Obama interfered in our last general election. Tom Steyer has regularly campaigned and donated money to defeat right of centre Canadian provincial and federal candidates and influence Canadian policy. Canadians have a long history of attempting to influence US elections. We donate to campaigns despite explicit rules against it. Hell, I've seen many reports in the papers of Canadians traveling to the US to work on Democratic campaigns. Typically it's Canadians supporting Dems.

I don't recall you getting all indignant about those efforts. Same goes for Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the senior Dem brain trust. More hypocrisy from the Left.




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Originally Posted By: canvasback
Brent. The whole point of the Russian thing was to demonstrate COLLUSION between the Russians and Trump. We all know the Russians, and other parties try to interfere in elections. What counts is when one of the candidates is involved. And despite the best efforts of the swamp, no such connection could be made.

Next.


You don't get to "next" when you have the wrong answer CB.

https://time.com/5572821/donald-trump-russia-contacts/


Really Chris? Exactly where was I wrong.

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....while Mueller may not have found any evidence that Trump associates conspired with Russia to interfere in the election...


After several years of investigation no collusion. But you want the investigations into potential fraud in this past election abandoned after 30 days. LOL

Maybe just stop this line of inquiry while you, Bill and Brent are behind. laugh

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Oh the phantom fraud, the phantom fraud.

Hey CB, care to comment on how these actions are in line with your highly espoused principles of Democracy?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasrei...sh=146d7e10ce2b



Would I care to comment? Sure.

I have no problem with Trump checking with the military if there appears to be a coup underway perpetrated by widespread, organized cheating at the polls. No problem whatsoever. I also think the perps of said coup, if proven to have been attempted, should be tried on charges of treason.


And then the reverse is true isn't it? If there is no fraud and they attempt to use the military to overturn the election and the democratically implemented will of the people, I guess its treason for all those who support that action right CB?


Of course.

I hope you weren't thinking you had lured me into some ethical trap and it was a gotcha moment. LOL


Not for a moment CB, but what if we remove the variable of the military? In fact, I'm pretty sure that treason doesn't require the of the military.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't your premise that its the election fraud that would result in the coup right?

So I just want to be sure, that if you agree the inverse is true as well, then a coup, just as well could be attempted, by attempting to stay in power by claiming fraud that never occurred. And that would be treason to right?

Do you agree with that CB?


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Would I care to comment? Sure.

I have no problem with Trump checking with the military if there appears to be a coup underway perpetrated by widespread, organized cheating at the polls. No problem whatsoever. I also think the perps of said coup, if proven to have been attempted, should be tried on charges of treason.


And then the reverse is true isn't it? If there is no fraud and they attempt to use the military to overturn the election and the democratically implemented will of the people, I guess its treason for all those who support that action right CB?


Of course.

I hope you weren't thinking you had lured me into some ethical trap and it was a gotcha moment. LOL


Not for a moment CB, but what if we remove the variable of the military? In fact, I'm pretty sure that treason doesn't require the of the military.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't your premise that its the election fraud that would result in the coup right?

So I just want to be sure, that if you agree the inverse is true as well, then a coup, just as well could be attempted, by attempting to stay in power by claiming fraud that never occurred. And that would be treason to right?

Do you agree with that CB?


Of course I agree with that, if it were a deliberate and false accusation.

There are a myriad of ways to attempt a coup, not all utilizing the military. Now, I'm not expert in US law but I suspect any effort, by any means, to change the government in ways other than that laid out by the US Constitution could be considered a coup and would be illegal. And that would include any effort to subvert the constitutionally laid out process for changing (or keeping) the President following an election.

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