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#586930 12/11/20 02:07 PM
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Does anyone here have some experience with this rifle? They made a splash when they first appeared, but quickly died probably from grossly over-sized wood. The action interests me, but I've never seen one in the " flesh".


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James Goergen had some of these in his inventory when they first came out. Very smooth action with fancy wood. I would not be surprised if he still had some in his collection.

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I have one in .243 caliber and it is very accurate and smooth action. Stockwork is excellent.

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Billy, why do you post stuff like this in the main double shotgun forum, but not here in the Classic Rifle forum??? Are you afraid of what your rifle buddies might think of you?

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Stan, Anyone who continues to support Trump is among the great fools of all time. Read the New York Post piece today. When Rupert Merdock has had it with Trump, it's a pretty good sign anyone still in that camp is as big a chump as ever lived.


Here's a nice video for you to watch. It tells you about all of the gun control proposals that are on Biden's campaign website. Watch it and see who the real fool and chump is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=58UPGtxRJM4


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Keith. Enjoy the news out of Georgia today. Your ship has sunk. Fortunately, you're still on it.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
....Your ship has sunk. Fortunately, you're still on it, you and all the other losers and suckers.

Good to know bill, your ship is just getting warmed up. I think the Colt Sharps does, do you know if classic sporting bolt rifles use modern primers, powder or other reloading components?

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Craig, once you commit yourself, irrevocably, to a false god, you're painted into a corner. The utter incoherence of your post shows a mind detached from any objective reality. Trump set out to divide and disrupt our society. He succeeded beyond our wildest fears. To continue supporting his madness is a form of national suicide. Stay conservative, but listen to the Republican leaders who now admit the disaster they helped create. Only the brain-dead still believe.


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Those of us who cherish our gun rights and wish to preserve the 2nd Amendment are very unhappy to see the results of the Georgia Senate race, and the fraudulent election that elected a devout anti-gunner like Altzheimer Joe Biden.

The country was divided and disrupted by Democrats who started talking about impeaching Trump before he was even sworn into office. The filthy Democrat pieces of shit who whined about Mitch McConnell wishing to make Obama a one-term president did everything they could to remove Trump long before he could finish four years.

I am happy to see rocky mtn bill gleefully celebrating the fraudulent election of a 47 year career anti-gunner. This shows that the enemy within is helping to stab all gun owners in the back. He is proud of it.

Anyone who helps this backstabber rocky mtn bill is as stupid as he is. I can already hear the whining and crying from law abiding gun owners who will have their Constitutional Rights attacked... who will see attempted bans on entire classes of firearms, restrictions on ammunition, and massive price increases because of shortages and panic buying. Here's a sample of things to come... thanks to assholes like rocky mtn bill:

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=588589&page=1


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Keith, your opposition to me confirms my disdain for you and all who persist in supporting our Mussolini President. You and he have done your best to destroy democracy, but you have failed. Keep it up, and you'll continue to fail. Failure is your best talent. You've sold your soul for the right to your AR. The world you'd like to build would make an AR a necessary possession. Go eat a bag of Cheetos.


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Billy, it is the Liberal Democrats who oppose any rational voter I.D. laws and election security that have destroyed Democracy.

I have outlined my many reasons for supporting Trump, including the fact that he did not launch a Mussolini type Fascist assault on the 2nd Amendment gun rights of law abiding citizens, as Altzheimer Joe Biden has done for 47 years.

I have told you I do not own an AR platform rifle. I have also shown you that anti-gun Democrats want to ban ammunition capable of piercing police body armor... which include the ammo you use in your deer and elk hunting rifles... scoped rifles that Democrats refer to as sniper guns.

But you have no brains Billy. You voted for someone who hates all guns.... handguns, semi-autos, and bolt action rifles too. You have seen the results of Liberal Democrat rule on gun ownership and ammunition restrictions, cost, and availability. Replacement informed you what is happening right now in California. But you are too dumb to manage a bowel movement without the DNC and Liberal Fake News pulling your puppet strings.


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Keith, for your information, gun rights are not the focus of current concern, nor are they the single issue that matters to our country. What good are gun rights if we lose everything else that makes America exceptional? Your blind refusal to see Trump for the danger he is makes you just another one of his suckers and losers. It's telling that many of the supporters of the President on this site also speak nostalgically of the Confederacy. Many are evangelical " Christians". It's an unholy alliance, a bargain with the devil, a selling of the soul. Having brains, which I grant you, is meaningless if you refuse to use them. Give up Q Anon.


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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
....for your information, gun rights are not the focus of current concern, nor are they the single issue that matters to our country. What good are gun rights if we lose everything else that makes America exceptional?....

Out of sight, out of mind?

I, based on facts, could never agree with you on the definition of exceptional, so save the emotions for important things like sticking up for nca.

If you have a minute, you could explain, with fact, the kali gun, ammo and reloading component fees, rules and restrictions, and how it will be implemented in Montana?

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Craig, welcome to reality. If you think Montana will become California, you don't know either one. Your paranoia is on full display. I'm sure you were not among the barbarians in DC, but did you wish you could have been? Keith was there, if only in spirit. You two seem to be joined at the hip, the Organ Grinder and his monkey.


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Hmmm, no difference, you sound the same.

Me, I wanna hang out in chaz town, I hear the sea food is better. I know a bit of both places, one I'll probably never go to again unless it's one of their airports on the way to somewhere else, but you've told me Montana should be just like them. And then there's Montana, and that link to kamalville when ever someone says western MT. Is there more?

Me, I like your Montana hunters and anglers leadership fund. Good ole boy, toting guns and shilling for dems out of sanfran. I am getting closer to understanding your MT?

Okay bill focus. In your Montana, can you get reloading components for only type B Oberndorf Mausers? And please, semi auto pistols or AR type rifles need not apply. Just kidding bill, I wanted to try out the new forum, carry on.

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Craig, I have no idea what availability of components is like. If they're in short supply, I know it's because Conservaturd Trumpist barbarians have bought them up thinking they'll get a free hand to shoot anyone who doesn't look up to them. What the hell is chaz town? You'd get further here if you wrote in English instead of Q Anon Double Speak. I tend to keep a reasonable supply of ammo and loading stuff on hand because Iknow the idiots out there will make it hard to get every time they surrender to pure paranoia.


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Billy, you have expressed pure paranoi about Trump ever since the 2016 election. In reality, he did a remarkable job, much better than your hero the Magic Negro Obama, until the economy was derailed by the Covid19 pandemic.

Thanks to Trump's efforts, vaccines were developed in record time, and will save many more people than would have been possible if Socialist Democrats had their way, and taxed the hell out of Pharmaceutical Companies.

You cry and say gun rights are not the topic here Billy. But bashing Trump at every opportunity in the main Double Gun forum is never the topic there, yet you do it anyway.

You complain about Trump incessantly, and whine that he is destroying all of the principles that made this country great... yet you support anti-gun Democrats who violate their sworn Oath of Office to uphold the Constitution, by infringing upon the gun rights of law abiding citizens. And you never tell us how he has made the country worse, unless you think destroying ISIS and reducing unemployment, and increasing wages for the masses was bad. Apparently, you think having a record 47 million people on Food Stamps under Obama was a good thing, as was a health care plan that let 30 million people uninsured.

You and other Libtards are accusing Trump of impeacheable offenses, and inciting the protest and ensuing riots in Washington. Yet you all were silent when Obama incited racial strife and violent riots during his term in office.

And you recent posts supporting reparations for blacks because of slavery is a joke Billy. The land where you live was taken by force from Native Americans, yet we do not see you or your kind leaving, and returning it to them. So tell us where you draw the line for correcting historical injustice? Apparently, that line is where it affects others, but not where it would hurt you personally. You are a fraud, and you are ignorant enough to support anti-gunners with a history of trying to shred the Constitution. In truth, you don't even know what Biden stands for. He has sponsored and supported many things you hate.

You might be able to see that if you ever took your head out of your ass, and stopped letting the DNC do your thinking. Did they instruct you to now resort to the Qanon theme to bolster your empty rhetoric Billy? You keep repeating that like a brainless sock-puppet.

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Keith, To continue to support Trump makes you one of the all-time suckers and losers. Trump depends on suckers and losers; it's his fundamental game plan. Whether it's Trump University or Trump casinos. he's there to fleece his minions. Amazingly. they just roll over and let hi m have his way with them. You and jOe, given your relationship, don't seem to mind. Different strokes I guess. As for evangelicals, who knows how flexible the moral code can be?

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A typically weak and vacuous response Billy... exactly what I expected from a brainless sock puppet.

But what would we expect from a gun owner who supports a Liberal Left Democrat with a 47 year 100% anti-gun voting record, and really not much else.

Did you move out of your house and return it to the Indians who were there first Billy? Tell me again why I should have to pay reparations to descendants of former slaves when none of my ancestors were engaged in the slave trade. Then tell us why you don't feel the moral obligation to return your land to the native Americans.

In other words, tell us why you are a fool, a hypocrite, and a racist who steals from minorities...


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Originally Posted by rocky mtn bill
....To continue to support [biden] makes you one of the all-time suckers and losers. [biden] depends on suckers and losers; it's his fundamental game plan....
....he's there to fleece his minions. Amazingly. they just roll over and let hi m have his way with them....
Funny how that works, huh Bill? Emotional outbursts take on truth, when they are applied honestly.

I supposed you're saying, that you do not have a favorite joebiden. Universities and casinos seem like much nicer places to be than the disgusting places biden has gone with his racist and misogynistics factual admissions, and you know the disdain I have for the universities of today.

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Keith and Craig: Loyalty to Trump is like loyalty to the Confederacy. He was right about loyalty; he could shoot someone down in the street, and his followers would still support him. They'd burn down the Capitol for him. I didn't see either of you in the riot photos, but assume you were there in spirit at least-- just your kind of show, brainless and violent. I'm sure the evangelicals were well represented too.


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Originally Posted by rocky mtn bill
....I didn't see either of you in the riot photos, but assume you were there in spirit at least....
Whoa, timeout Bill,we were having some friendly banter. What riots are you referring to, it seems serious?

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That would be the one where a right wing mob took over our Capitol and killed a police officer:



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I wish I could open links, I want to learn and understand as you and Bill do. I am starting to see what Bill means by conspiracy theories. Do you think this is an example of First Amendment Rights being eroded through censorship? I believe the First Amendment is an area of common ground that the right and the left can unite for a shared interest and a common good. Thank you for reaching out to me.

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No I do not think that 1st amenment rights are being eroded through censorship. You cannot yell "fire" in a a crowded theater under your 1st amenment rights, I do not think incting a violent mob to be much different. I think the response you are seeing to Trumps behavior by the private sector is long over due. Twitter, Facebook, the PGA, Google removing Parlor.....all moves in the right direction and well within the rioghts of the private sector. I think common ground can be found with those who condem violence on both sides of the political spectrum. I see at least 45% of Republicans have now seen the light and no longer approve of Trumps actions. That is a hell of a start.


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At least 25 people have been killed as a result of BLK protests in 2020, but Queen Stevie and rocky mtn bill are not a all concerned about that.

Numerous police officers have also been killed, and hundreds injured, as a result of the BLM protests, but you wiil not hear Queen Stevie or rocky mtn bill ever mentioning that either.

For these two Trump hating Libtards, it's all about supporting the narrative that Trump is evil, and liberal left anti-gun Democrats are good.

The fact remains... Trump did not incite these riots and protests

He never exhorted anyone to break into the House of Representatives.

But millions of Americans are justifiably angry about the massive and obvious election fraud that elected the anti-gunner Joe Biden.

Queen Stevie will be here shortly to deny any such fraud, and he/she will instead dig for evidence of Republican election fraud. But Queen Stevie knows damn well there were millions of mail-in ballots that did not have proper verification of voter I.D., signature. or valid registration. Also, once the ballots were removed from the outer envelopes that had the signature, they were discarded. So there is no way to go back and prove the fraud which was witnessed by election observers.

Queen Stevie cannot prove there was no fraud. All he/she can do is spout the lying Fake News and Democrat propaganda mantra that there was no fraud. I find it very interesting to see a gunsmith carrying the mail for anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats.

I also do not believe Queen Stevie when he/she claims that 45 % of Republicans now disapprove of Trump's actions. I have not seen a single one who has changed their mind about him, nor the fact that a large majority still feel the election was stolen. We are quite happy that Trump did not simply roll over and let them get away with lies and fraud.

The only thing more stupid and pathetic than a liberal gun owner like rocky mtn bill supporting anti-gunners is a closet Liberal like Queen Stevie, who is always critical of the Republicans that actually protect our gun rights. Queen Stevie will claim he/she voted for Trump. But over four years of Queen Stevie criticizing and lying about Trump tells a very different story.

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Keith, you're the fool here. Even Mitch Mc Connell and Lindsey Graham belatedly acknowedged that a stolen election is a lie. We have no need to "prove" there was no election fraud. Republican state officials and judges all over the country have done that. As an aside, why do Conservaturds contest only those elections they lost? If there were wide-spread cheating, why shouldn't I claim fraud in Montana where R's swept the board? Here's why: our elections are overwhelmingy safe and secure. PS: "I have not seen a single one who has changed their mind." Note: a single noun requires a single pronoun, not that you'd understand.

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Slow Bus Billie does not understand that the burden of proof rests with the platiff in our system. It not up to anyone to prove that no fraud occured but rather it is Trumps responsability to prove that fraud did occur. The same principle applies in both criminal and civil court cases. Get a clue dumbass.

No amount of violence by the left justifies the behavior of the mob in DC on the 6th of January.

What a shame those extremist killed another policeman, Brian Sicknick.


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Keith, As for Conservaturd Republicans changing their minds, it's impossible as you demonstrate frequently. You believe you have exclusive access to the absolute truth, and that any belief you hold is therefore not open to discussion or question. PS: I understand your bitternes about Trump's fall. Until he came long, you never dreamed an as...ole like you could reach the highest office of the land. To have his term be a nearly total disaster is hard for you to grasp. Come to terms with it. The only alternative is to spend the rest of your life hating reality. Happy New Year. PS: There are vaccines and treatment for Covid, but nothing yet to treat what's wrong with you.

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Cumulus gets it right and finally demands talk radio hosts stop spreading the big election fraud lie :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...e-537c-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html


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Originally Posted by SKB
....all moves in the right direction and well within the rioghts of the private sector. I think common ground can be found with those who condem violence on both sides of the political spectrum. I see at least 45% of Republicans have now seen the light and no longer approve of Trumps actions. That is a hell of a start.
I like the way this thread has turned for the better, common ground is a healthy step forward for the country. Can I take this opportunity to reinforce the critical roll organizations like the Minnesota Freedom Fund provide. Both President elect Biden and Vice President elect Harris have either personally donated or had a number of their close staffers monetarily support the fund.

Side question. Steve, why do you think some people a so dumb as to only recognize the righteous journey of the private sector in the last two weeks. Do you think it's something to do with emulating President elect Biden's stutter? How about that, I'm starting to see the light. Do you think it's enough for me to get on the DNC talking point email blast?

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Craig, A speach impediment is not the same thing as what you're cursed with: a thought impediment. The former can be overcome. Happy New Year.

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Originally Posted by rocky mtn bill
....As for Conservaturd Republicans changing their minds, it's impossible as you demonstrate frequently. You believe you have exclusive access to the absolute truth, and that any belief you hold is therefore not open to discussion or question. PS: I understand your bitternes about Trump's fall. Until he came long, you never dreamed an as...ole like you could reach the highest office of the land. To have his term be a nearly total disaster is hard for you to grasp. Come to terms with it. The only alternative is to spend the rest of your life hating reality. Happy New Year. PS: There are vaccines and treatment for Covid, but nothing yet to treat what's wrong with you.
Thank you Bill for your service to a divided nation, and your tireless efforts to unite. I must take issue with you though, there is no hope to climb out of the ravages, horrors and brutalities of covid until the twentieth. Can we all come together and just hang on for nine more days?

Hey, I noticed biden had a little skype presentation after he took his second covid vaccination dosage. I tend towards following the science, but did the researchers study the effect of a direct shot in the brain? It seemed to cause a temporary, I'm certain, dementia like condition, but on a positive note it may have the side benefit of enlarging male breasts?

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Originally Posted by rocky mtn bill
Craig, A speach impediment is not the same thing as what you're cursed with: a thought impediment. The former can be overcome. Happy New Year.
Do you have a link for what a thought impediment is? I don't understand, where did you see this, how did you learn of them. Do you really think I have it? Will it be covered under biden care? This is going to gnaw on me, I think I'll need medication for this, maybe three, and counselling, group therapy of course.

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Originally Posted by SKB
Cumulus gets it right and finally demands talk radio hosts stop spreading the big election fraud lie :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...e-537c-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html


I am not at all shocked to see that Queen Stevie feels that censorship of Conservative talk shows is a good and correct thing.

Those talk show hosts weren't talking about election fraud in order to perpetuate a lie. They have been talking about it because it is blatantly obvious, and an affront to the millions of voters who have had their votes nullified by cheating. So why do tens of millions of voters see fraud? Well, first let's take a look at Altzheimer Joe Biden's previous attempts to become president:

Presidential elections
1984

1984 Democratic National Convention (presidential tally):

Walter Mondale – 2,191 (56.4%)
Gary Hart – 1,201 (30.9%)
Jesse Jackson – 466 (12.0%)
Thomas Eagleton – 18 (0.45%)
George McGovern – 4 (0.1%)
John Glenn – 2 (0.1%)
Joe Biden – 1 (0.0%)
Martha Kirkland – 1 (0.0%)

1988

1988 Democratic National Convention (presidential tally):

Michael Dukakis – 2,877 (70.1%)
Jesse Jackson – 1,219 (29.7%)
Richard H. Stallings – 3 (0.1%)
Joe Biden – 2 (0.1%)
Dick Gephardt – 2 (0.1%)
Lloyd Bentsen – 1 (0.0%)
Gary Hart – 1 (0.02)

2008

2008 New Hampshire Democratic vice presidential primary:

Raymond Stebbins – 50,485 (46.9%)
William Bryk – 22,965 (21.4%)
John Edwards* – 10,553 (9.8%)
Barack Obama* 6,402 (6.0%)
Bill Richardson* (write-in) – 5,525 (5.1%)
Hillary Clinton* (write-in) – 3,419 (3.2%)
Joe Biden* – 1,512 (1.4%)
Al Gore* – 966 (0.9%)
Dennis Kucinich* – 762 (0.7%)
Bill Clinton* – 388 (0.4%)
John McCain* – 293 (0.3%)
Chris Dodd* – 224 (0.2%)
Ron Paul* – 176 (0.2%)
Jack Barnes, Jr.* – 95 (0.1%)
Mike Gravel* – 91 (0.1%)
Joe Lieberman* – 67 (0.1%)
Mitt Romney* – 66 (0.1%)
Mike Huckabee* – 63 (0.1%)
Rudy Giuliani* – 46 (0.0%)
Darrel Hunter* – 20 (0.0%)

2008 Democratic presidential primaries:

Excluding penalized contests, only primary and caucuses votes:

Barack Obama – 16,706,853
Hillary Clinton – 16,239,821
John Edwards – 742,010
Bill Richardson – 89,054
Uncommitted – 82,660
Dennis Kucinich – 68,482
Joe Biden – 64,041
Mike Gravel – 27,662
Chris Dodd – 25,300
Others – 22,556

Including penalized contests:

Hillary Clinton – 18,225,175 (48.0%)
Barack Obama – 17,988,182 (47.4%)
John Edwards – 1,006,275 (2.7%)
Uncommitted – 299,610 (0.8%)
Bill Richardson – 106,073 (0.3%)
Dennis Kucinich – 103,994 (0.3%)
Joe Biden – 81,641 (0.2%)
Scattering – 44,348 (0.1%)
Mike Gravel – 40,251 (0.1%)
Chris Dodd – 35,281 (0.1%)


To say that Biden has been an unpopular choice with Democrat voters is the understatement of the century. For someone who had been in National office for decades, the best he could do prior to 2020 was to embarrass himself before he dropped out. His 1988 campaign fizzled quickly after he got caught lying and admitted to plagiarism. And he certainly did not distinguish himself as Obama's V.P.

Everyone knows he was a National embarrassment, and his only real accomplishment, if you hate guns, was that he continued to be a voice for disarming law abiding citizens and restricting access to guns and ammo.

In 2020, he barely emerged from his basement, where he was kept in hiding from the public. A goodly number of Democrats even questioned how in hell he had won the Primary, when other Democrat candidates, such as Bernie Sanders seemingly were much more popular. The DNC cheated Bernie out of the nomination in 2016... they even cheat their own fellow Democrats!

When he was finally shamed into making some campaign appearances, attendance at his rallies was as dismal as his previous runs for president. Very small numbers of supporters remained in their cars, and honked horns. Really, his greatest appeal among people like Billy and Queen Stevie... who have Trump derangement syndrome, was that he wasn't Trump. Meanwhile, Trump was attracting massive crowds with major enthusiasm. Attendance in Tulsa at an indoor venue was somewhat disappointing right after the Covid19 shutdown. Yet it was still large enough for Libtards like Queen Stevie and the Fake News Media to cry that it was a super-spreader Covid19 event. But as the campaign went on, his events totally filled large venues, and thousands more stood outside and lined the streets, just to show support. And we just did not hear people saying that they supported Trump in 2016, but planned to switch to the demented Socialist Joe Biden in 2020.

We were told by the Fake News Media all through the election that the polls showed Trump down by double digits, and that he would lose in a landslide so tremendous that he should probably just drop out to avoid embarrassment. Yet when the vote counting began on election night, instead of seeing Trump getting slaughtered by double digits, he was winning late into the evening. Then late at night, under the cover of darkness, and over the protests of election observers, we had many very strange things occurring in predominately Democrat states and counties. Libtards often claim that Republicans reject science with things like climate change. But they want us all to believe crap like this:

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Large mysterious ballot dumps were made in the wee hours of the morning in key swing states that abruptly erased Trump leads. Election observers reported and signed sworn affidavits attesting to being told to leave, or being blocked from observing the count, and having their objections to gross irregularities ignored. They witnessed things like large boxes of mail-in ballots being brought in, all filled out with Sharpie pens, and only Biden/Harris picked, with no down-ballot choices. They saw large suitcases full of suspicious ballots being pulled out from under tables in Democrat counties in Georgia, again, in the wee hours of the morning... with no explanation as to why they had been hidden and kept in suitcases until then. Thousands of ballots hidden under tables... Nothing to see here folks! Observers also complained about mail-in ballots that had signatures that did not remotely match those on file, but the contested votes were counted, and the outer signature envelopes were discarded so that fraud could not be proven.

Then they expect us to believe that Democrat precincts can actually have voter turnouts of 100% and higher. And they expect us to believe that Wayne County, (Detroit) Michigan has a shitload of 120 year old voters who voted for Biden. We also had many people swear that when they got to the polls, they had to fill out provisional ballots, because they were informed that they had already voted... when they knew they hadn't. They also expect us to believe that Joe Biden actually got more votes than Barack Hussein Obama in predominately black precincts. And even though Trump got nearly 10 million more votes than he did in 2016, they want us to believe that Biden/Harris shattered that total by 7 million more. Remember, this is a loser who never got more than 1.4% in a Primary, and never came close to becoming the Democrat nominee.

And we all know how Democrats hate the very idea of Voter I.D., even though showing a photo I.D. disenfranchises no one... and how they push to allow illegal aliens to get driver's licenses, which make it very easy for illegals to illegally register to vote without proof of citizenship. Only one Party wishes to give felons the right to vote, and to take away gun rights from law abiding citizens, and that is Democrats.There is so much more, but Democrats and the Fake News Media, and the Libtard sock-puppets here keep repeating that there is no evidence of fraud.

So gee-whiz... with all that and much more, I wonder why tens of millions of Americans think the election was rigged, and stolen from Donald Trump??? I wonder why they do not believe Attorney General William Barr's assertion that there was no fraud, when he did no investigation and refused to appoint a Special Counsel?

It seems as though the Democrats who planned all of this made a major miscalculation though. They apparently thought that all Republicans and all Independents are as stupid as rocky mtn bill and Queen Stevie. And they thought that Donald Trump would just go quietly back to Mara Largo, and that his tens of millions of supporters would simply ignore what they saw, and just accept the repeated Soviet style propaganda mantra that "there is no evidence...there is no evidence...there is no evidence...there is no evidence..."

The Democrat liars who started this mess are now claiming they want to unify the country, and end the division... after more than 4 years of non-stop hysterically partisan attacks on a duly elected President. Back then, they hated the Electoral College, but now they love it. Now with barely 10 days until their fraud scheme removes Trump from office, they are still attacking, and falsely accusing, and threatening the man they persecuted and threatened to impeach since the minute he was elected,. And they are still threatening to prosecute and imprison him and his family. Those Democrats who claim to wish to bring harmony, peace, healing, and unity to the Nation want to crush Donald Trump, and totally destroy him and his legacy. And they are hunting down many of his supporters who did far less than BLM rioters. Sadly, Queen Stevie and rocky mtn bill are far too stupid to see the irony in this, and they both support it.

Almost 245 years ago, American colonists revolted against British rule over some little things like gun control, attempts to censor the colonists by prohibiting newspapers from publishing unfavorable information and opinions (see Cato's letters), and a tax on their tea. Those who revolted to correct perceived wrongs were called criminals and insurrectionists. Their Declaration of Independence was called sedition, and their oppressors tried to crush them and silence them.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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