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Mr H. How many shells are you going to need for this quail season? I'll be happy to ship you some different 1oz. 8 factory loads I have around here.... I shoot 7/8 oz. loads almost exclusively, but have a pretty good mess of factory 1165fps 1 oz. stuff around here, hard and medium hard shot in various makes.
Let me know , taking a flat or so out of my pile isn't going to make much of a dent in my stash.
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Paul, a flat would be more than ample. Let me look around here some this week to see what's available in a couple local hardware stores, that I've been told have a decent stock of ammo still. If I strike out I'll contact you about the details. I hesitate to accept such a generous offer, but will certainly front you the shell and shipping cost if we do this.
Thank you so much, SRH
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Not to worry , simple matter to UPS a flat to GA.
AA, Remington possibly, and I know of several boxes of Win Super X "Heavy Field" 1 oz. 1165fps 8's down there....
Let me know.
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I will. Thanks, my friend.
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Your reloads with good shot like Lawrence or West Coast stand a better chance at the pattern plate than the commercially loaded 'heavy field load' stuff.
This is why the 1 oz. 20 gets a bad reputation. They run soft shot too fast and are shocked that it won't shoot tighter than IC.
Truth be known, that's adequate for most.
But... if you want an honest modified or full choke pattern from the 1 ounce 20, you're best served with a slow-ish load of hard shot.
But you know that.... and it plays right to your desired velocity/mass combo for regulation.
Longshot and either the RXP-20 or the SP-20 at 1100-something and you're probably where you want to be.
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These should meet your needs. Available in #7 1/2 or #8. I would expect they have better quality shot that the promo loads. No question that the quality of shot is great with the AAs. Finding them right now is another matter. I'm going scour the local stores tomorrow. Supposed to rain, so we can't work in the field. This ammo shortage won't last forever. Maybe I'll outlast it. SRH
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I've got most all of a flat of those 1 oz. 1165fps AA 8's sitting around here.... just let me know.
They do out preform the Super X and Remington Heavy Dove Loads If......your goal is TIGHTER patterns..... I have shot a few quail in my career, and I don't find myself handicapped by ordinary field loads containing shot that has tested 1.3% through 3% antimony. I use shells to fine tune tweak my perceived requirement , especially since I mostly shoot fixed chokes in the field.....Bobwhites are not that tough to bring down....
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Completely agree, Paul. I found a few of the Remington Shur Shot Heavy Dove loads in my gun room. They're likely softer shot than the AAs. I'll run a few of them through both barrels on my grease plate, see how they look, and go from there.
I don't really need tight(er) patterns from this gun. It was M and F, but I sent it to Dean Harris and had him open them, and lengthen the chambers to 2 3/4. But, they've still got choke ...... .006" R and .016" L. Sure don't need any more tightening there for our quail here.
My one experience with Gambel's in AZ would have worked fine with those chokes. They run bad, and often flush further away.
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Stan, out of curiosity, what difference did Dean find in pattern between 7/8 oz and 1 oz?
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