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an assortment of interesting doubles from a guy that i perceive as more a parts vendor....french guns with german barrels....with english barrels...all of which were obviously once very nice guns that some mad scientist (?) has doctored on....based on the offering together/similar ages/similar conditions and modifications, i would assume they are obtained from the same source...these are obviously "projects" and likely deep holes to dive into - but still interesting guns...curious to hear responses.... https://www.gunbroker.com/item/878877361https://www.gunbroker.com/item/878878522https://www.gunbroker.com/item/878877957https://www.gunbroker.com/item/878878988
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All three are pretty nice.. I too like all of them. Wish he would post more information with them.
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https://www.gunbroker.com/item/878878988I wonder why/how the British touchmark of Crown over V arrived on the water-table? The German touchmarks on the barrel flats(1 of ?) date to end of WWI or early 1920s. Cheers, Raimey rse
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All have my head spinning....talk about cross-cultural diversification! The third one has this escruntcheon plate: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/878877957"Le Bazar de la Charité, 1888" It obviously originally was black powder proofed. One would think it to be a Paris gun but darned if it doesn't look Brit!! And I cannot begin to decipher the proof marks. I'm going to assume it's a German given in 1888 to a charity sale in Paris. - where it went from there is a mystery: Re "Le Bazar de la Charité," I'll translate the below if there is interest. Le Bazar de la Charité est, à l'origine, un consortium de plusieurs œuvres de bienfaisance, qui louent un local ou un espace d'exposition en commun, afin de réduire leurs dépenses et de permettre de grouper acheteurs et invités. Installé, de 1885 à 1887, rue du Faubourg-Saint-Honoré, en 1889 place Vendôme et, en 1888 et de 1890 à 1896, rue La Boétie5, il est transféré en 1897 aux nos 15 et 17 de la rue Jean-Goujon dans le 8e arrondissement, sur un terrain mis gracieusement à disposition par le banquier Michel Heine6. (Reilly had a shop for a few months on rue du Faubourg-Saint-Honoré in 1885.)
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As for the fourth https://www.gunbroker.com/item/878878988This is not a French gun. It was retailed by Heut Armorier in Lille. I'll leave it to the Germanophiles to interpret these marks: I suppose this engraving could be a French gun (Scott Spindle on the top lever): I don't have a clue about the proof marks on the action flats: Broken stock and all, it's a handsome gun.
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they are all handsome, and a couple of them were fine guns (chapu definitely is top drawer maker, and the belgian 20 with arcaded balls is no slouch)....was the huet gun rebarreled in germany? seller warns its not on face, has someone found barrels close enough to fit?
at any rate, some entertaining fodder for the mill...and an opportunity to show brashness/bravery?
best regards, tom
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All three are pretty nice.. I too like all of them. Wish he would post more information with them. based on what i've seen seller is not a shotgun guy, he seems to mainly deal in rifles and parts - some quite nice, but most showing a good deal of wear. he has several mannlicher schoenauers parted out into major components. b.r. tom
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Huet is definitively the retailer, not the maker. That mark around the trigger guard is very French and very conclusive.
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What perplexes me on the Huet is the British proofmarks on the water-table. The action, or a gesteck, must have been sourced from the little British isles. The other, or original, tubeset would be the missing piece of the puzzle.
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Greybeardtmm3 are you the seller? Links to auctions are typically posted only after the auction has closed. I know a couple guys on this board that were bidding on those guns before your post and any economical deal is now likely not going to happen.
It’s still a free country, and other guys do it too, but it doesn’t seem like the kind thing anyone would want to happen to them. The discussion about German barrels and English proof marks could have been had after the auction closed.
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