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Early J.P. SAUER Bernard barrels proof marks #579326 09/06/20 11:59 AM
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OP Jtplumb Sidelock Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 548 Likes: 86	Pic of flats. What proofs - marks are these? Looks like It might be a powder I�m not familiar with?

Re: Early J.P. SAUER Bernard barrels proof marks Jtplumb #579333 09/06/20 01:05 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,784 Likes: 185 North Alabama ellenbr Sidelock
ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,784 Likes: 185 North Alabama	Sauer in-house process marks & pattern welded tube type. Cheers, Raimey rse

Re: Early J.P. SAUER Bernard barrels proof marks Jtplumb #579337 09/06/20 03:25 PM
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OP Jtplumb Sidelock Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 548 Likes: 86	This gun is advertised as 12 ga 70 mm but barrels are marked cal 18. Breech end of these Damascus barrels look super thin. I guess if they only opened the chambers one could chamber sleeve( or just drop in gauge mate 12-20) to 20 ga and shoot away. Last edited by Jtplumb; 09/06/20 03:31 PM.

Re: Early J.P. SAUER Bernard barrels proof marks Jtplumb #579340 09/06/20 04:24 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,784 Likes: 185 North Alabama ellenbr Sidelock
ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,784 Likes: 185 North Alabama	Cal 18.1/18.2(mm)(Belgian) is the diameter of the pattern welded tubes as finished or similar. I doubt original chambers of 70mm, but it is possible now? It wears both of the Sauer Quality Crowns so it was a best quality & was verified / checked @ the Sauer range. Cheers, Raimey rse

Re: Early J.P. SAUER Bernard barrels proof marks Jtplumb #579344 09/06/20 05:17 PM
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OP Jtplumb Sidelock Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 548 Likes: 86	Thanks. Thought gun was interesting but didn�t like the caliber mark and thought 70mm was questionable for a 1890s or earlier gun. Would look really nice after cleaned up. We shall see soon. Last edited by Jtplumb; 09/06/20 05:21 PM.

Re: Early J.P. SAUER Bernard barrels proof marks Jtplumb #579353 09/06/20 09:19 PM
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OP Jtplumb Sidelock Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 548 Likes: 86	Wow this gun must be more significant than I thought, price went quite high. Beautiful gun though.

Re: Early J.P. SAUER Bernard barrels proof marks Jtplumb #579354 09/06/20 09:31 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,784 Likes: 185 North Alabama ellenbr Sidelock
ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,784 Likes: 185 North Alabama	Transitional mechanism very similar to the Manhattan that has the mainspring mounted on the lockplate, alone, if I remember correctly. The inverted L pin configuration gives it away. On the standing breech is a plate that houses a long thin spring that keeps the firing pins forward, if again memory serves me. I'll look..... Cheers, Raimey rse

Re: Early J.P. SAUER Bernard barrels proof marks Jtplumb #579355 09/06/20 09:32 PM
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ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,784 Likes: 185 North Alabama	https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubb...true#Post401256 Cheers, Raimey rse

Re: Early J.P. SAUER Bernard barrels proof marks Jtplumb #579356 09/06/20 09:33 PM
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ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,784 Likes: 185 North Alabama	https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthre...true#Post282296 Cheers, Raimey rse

Re: Early J.P. SAUER Bernard barrels proof marks Jtplumb #579357 09/06/20 09:35 PM
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ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,784 Likes: 185 North Alabama	Correction the sear & sear spring are mounted on the lockplate. Cheers, Raimey rse

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