doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com 75th anniversary of VJ Day

Speaking of Canadians, VJ day was monumental for them also as the last few hundred POWs who had survived 4 1/2 years of torture, starvation, and disease were finally released. They had been prisoners since 1940 when the Japanese captured Hong Kong.
My ex-father in law, Col. E.E. Denison was among the group that lived to see freedom once more.

I saw that article CB, written by Sean Howard I think. That guy is a useless peacenik.

Yet still the best way to assure that the "nukin Japan twice was wrong" "movement" gains momentum is to talk about how luny it is.

Likewise the best was to end it is to assure that history is well taught to students. All of it. The good, the bad, the ugly and what you are scared to confront. Don't sugar coat it. Teach it like it was.

I wonder if Sean knew how the intentionally heinous treatment by the Japanese command of POWs, the Chinese, any female, indigenous peoples and so on was done by policy, if he would feel differently about the efficacy of these bombs.

I wonder if he was taught how the Japanese command ordered their own civilians to death to avoid capture on Okinawa, and that in turn lead the US military to anticipate the exact same result on mainland Japan, and favor the use of the bombs to prevent such a catastrophic loss of life.

This kind of stufff is the result of not properly educating people.

Uh oh, there's a revisionist scholar in the house. I came seeking links to snopes, cnn and npr, but I'm left still searching.

Is there? Please, point out how the Japanese acted differently? Any why I would need a snopes article for that?

However, if you are looking fo an example on how a "revisionist" history has been incorrectly taught, historically, then kindly refer to the following;

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/ar...slavery/552098/

and it seems its been that way for a while.

https://richmond.com/discover-richmond/h...6fce52328f.html

Gotta admit, those text books kinda sugar coats things.

I already did. I never would have thought for a moment that two man US outposts scattered through the Japanese country side, right after the war, would have operated in complete comfort and safety. So much so that many troops returned to the US with Japanese brides.

What I do not care at all for is the horrendous brutality and torture suffered by US and Allied POWs at the hands of the 'imperial army' with a faux bow of respect when the US patriot finally took their last breath.

But, that's nothing new. I like to point out the content of your character, the hypocrisy of your snake oil, and the results of your vote. Okay?

Oh, back at this again, eh? I recall you once posting that you thought I was the enemy of your children's future.

I doubt that's changed much, but at least since then I do have a better understanding as to why you don't want me to get those old timey text books out of their hands. Such a bright future for them indeed.

I corresponded with a man, Captain Murphy, who was a POW held by Germans and then transferred to the Japanese where he was a slave laborer in Burma working on the Burma-Thailand railway. As in my mother's family, his family had news of his capture through one of the shortwave radio listeners who monitored Radio Tokyo for news of captured Americans.
He was US Merchant Marine on a ship sunk by a German Q-boat and transferred to a submarine that took him to the Japanese. One of the other prisoners from his sunken ship was separated from him when he was taken to Japan. Years later while vacationing with his wife in England at the height of anti-war, anti-nuke demonstrations in the UK, he watched an interview on TV of the man with whom he was captured. The man said his body was covered with tumors. He had been near ground zero at Nagasaki when the bomb exploded. Despite being riddled with cancerous tumors as a result of the bomb, he was glad the bomb was dropped as at least he was still alive, unlike many of the other slave workers he knew that were killed by the Japanese. Captain Murphy met with the man for drinks during his stay in the U.K. Interestingly, Gen. Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay opined that had the U.S. lost the war, he undoubtedly would have been tried as a war criminal. Gil

I had the good fortune to attend a presentation by Richard Cole, Doolittle's copilot, at the museum on Ford Island, Pearl Harbor. He had some assistance from a niece as he must have been older than ninty at the time, but he was sharp as a tack. He had extremely interesting and captivating first hand accounts of the operation.

One of my uncles was part of that group.

Canvasback there is a book on the Hong Kong saga and I am sure he would be mentioned. My ex brother in law has a copy. Many died while building Kai Tak airport by hand.