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Weight matters very little to me. Much more important to me are the handling characteristics. I have sub-5 lb. guns that handle like 6 1/2 lb. game guns, and 9 lb.+ doubles that are as quick as many 7 lb. guns.
MOI is much more important to me than weight.
SRH Concur, overall weight is part of it, but the balance or better put as you have MOI is the dominant concern. Come hunt with me sometime. One does not have to give up MOI, or whatever acronym you wish to choose, to use a light gun. And the end of the day, a long day, in heavy cover, maybe snow, lots of cold and wind, a light gun is appreciated. And strangely, they can kill pretty well. Everything is a trade off and the balance of that trade off is subject to a given set of circumstances. No, thanks. If I want to hunt in tough conditions I'll stick with ducks in the hell-hole swamps I love so much. And, my 9 lb. 7 oz. SuperFox never seems to bother me there. You see, professor, in your attempt to paint me in an ignorant light it is you who overlook the obvious. Three times in my short post above I used the qualifier "to me". This because I was responding to a thread entitled "Field gun preferred weight". The title, and my response, were both tailored to the responder and his circumstances (thus the word "preferred"), both of which were ignored by you in your reply to me. Besides, I don't hunt with persons who make a habit of "riding free" on other's backs. See ya'll later. I'm off to shoot some clays. SRH
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Add me to the 6.5lb gun club. Many miles of following a Springer across the plains makes for a tired guy and dogs at the end of the day. My gun is actually 6lbs 9 ozs but it fits like it was made for me. Really looking forward to getting back at it.
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Weight matters very little to me. Much more important to me are the handling characteristics. I have sub-5 lb. guns that handle like 6 1/2 lb. game guns, and 9 lb.+ doubles that are as quick as many 7 lb. guns.
MOI is much more important to me than weight.
SRH Concur, overall weight is part of it, but the balance or better put as you have MOI is the dominant concern. Come hunt with me sometime. One does not have to give up MOI, or whatever acronym you wish to choose, to use a light gun. And the end of the day, a long day, in heavy cover, maybe snow, lots of cold and wind, a light gun is appreciated. And strangely, they can kill pretty well. Everything is a trade off and the balance of that trade off is subject to a given set of circumstances. No, thanks. If I want to hunt in tough conditions I'll stick with ducks in the hell-hole swamps I love so much. And, my 9 lb. 7 oz. SuperFox never seems to bother me there. You see, professor, in your attempt to paint me in an ignorant light it is you who overlook the obvious. Three times in my short post above I used the qualifier "to me". This because I was responding to a thread entitled "Field gun preferred weight". The title, and my response, were both tailored to the responder and his circumstances (thus the word "preferred"), both of which were ignored by you in your reply to me. Besides, I don't hunt with persons who make a habit of "riding free" on other's backs. See ya'll later. I'm off to shoot some clays. SRH Stan, you wouldn't know rough hunting it you tripped over it. Duck hunting sure aint it. Pump up your ego and knock yourself out on those clays though. And make sure to take a gun with a lot of MOI or umammi or whatever your secret sauce for the day is.
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan)
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No, thanks. If I want to hunt in tough conditions I'll stick with ducks in the hell-hole swamps I love so much. And, my 9 lb. 7 oz. SuperFox never seems to bother me there. You see, professor, in your attempt to paint me in an ignorant light it is you who overlook the obvious. Three times in my short post above I used the qualifier "to me". This because I was responding to a thread entitled "Field gun preferred weight". The title, and my response, were both tailored to the responder and his circumstances (thus the word "preferred"), both of which were ignored by you in your reply to me.
Besides, I don't hunt with persons who make a habit of "riding free" on other's backs.
See ya'll later. I'm off to shoot some clays.
SRH
Stan, you wouldn't know rough hunting it you tripped over it. Duck hunting sure aint it. Pump up your ego and knock yourself out on those clays though. And make sure to take a gun with a lot of MOI or umammi or whatever your secret sauce for the day is. Clearly you don't know much about duck hunting Brent. Either that or you are letting your political allegiances colour your hunting commentary. While I haven't hunted the swamps and flooded timber down Stan's way, there is no more exhausting hunting than working your way through a marsh. It's not all boat rides and sitting in a blind.
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Clearly you don't know much about duck hunting Brent. Either that or you are letting your political allegiances colour your hunting commentary. While I haven't hunted the swamps and flooded timber down Stan's way, there is no more exhausting hunting than working your way through a marsh. It's not all boat rides and sitting in a blind.
Whatever you say. I've hunted ducks in Georgia too. It's nothing like an entire day chasing pheasants in late winter.
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan)
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I like 5 3/4 - 6 1/2 lb for rough hunting (e.g, ruffed grouse). The gun I shoot best is a Browning Super 20 which weighs 6 lb 4 Oz. I shoot my SxS ok, but try as I may with the SxS guns, the O/U Browning is easier for me to shoot. A sub 6 lb gun is a pleasure in the grouse woods.
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A lot of people agree with those notions. My single O/U, that is my Sons at this point (hed let me use it, I guess) is my Dads Silver Snipe.Doesn't seems heavy, but, it is 7lbs, and it will feel heavy at sundown.
Best, Ted
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6# seems like the perfect weight for me and I have a couple 12's, 16's and 20's in that range. The interesting thing is I shoot the same load out of all of them, 1 oz of # 5 or 6 shot for hunting.
Most of my skeet shooting is with my 12's and there it is 11/16 oz of 9's, the bar was in a loader I bought so I tried it and it breaks birds. For SC 7/8 oz of 8's.
For waterfowl my sxs's run a pound heavier but still 7/8 oz of ITX 6's or 1 oz of bismuth.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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6 1/4 - 6 3/4 lbs. works well for me. The 686 pheasant gun below is an even 7 lbs. and the sling is quite nice. It's not like you need to walk port arms all day. I've got a 30" 16 gauge FAIR Rizzini that came with sling hardware in the box. It's a nice 6lbs. 3 oz., but the sling would still be useful on long walks through unproductive cover.
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5 3/4lb. 28 gauge gun, with a sling: Bourgeois, no? Best, Ted
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