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I came down from a very rural area in Pa. In the mountains, pretty much anything went.
The old farmers used plain old goose grease for their guns and farm implements. They would swear by it. Back then, not much of the super lubes around then. They all though it was great, seem to work for them. They learned this from their fathers and grandfathers. I guess they just passed it from generation to generation.
Things were different then.
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Thank, Ted. I guess there's a lot of difference in the needs of a hinge pin, afa lubrication goes, and roller chains.
I'm no engineer. I just quit with things that don't work and settle on things that do. Never tried moly/graphite on hinge pins, but it sure would be nice to have a lube that dried and didn't attract grit like iron filings to a lodestone.
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Ive used chain wax for motorcycle chains, Stan, for much the same reason. It dries after it penetrates the links. Motorcycle chains are messy no matter what, but,the wax cuts down on the mess, considerably.
The nature of removing spent shells, and reloading new ones, either with or without ejectors, is always going to dump leftover crud from the shell into the area of the action flats. People refer to this crud, often enough, as unburnt powder, which, it isnt-it is mostly carbonous remains of burnt powder, and carries all the same negative characteristics as carbon in an engine. Hard, abrasive, and unwanted in the works.
A gun is easier to clean then an engine, I guess. Cleaning is important, and better lubes will do a better job of holding contaminants in suspension, and allowing less wear than lower grade lubricants.
SA grade motor oils of 75 years ago, cant and dont hold a candle to modern oil. The comparison applies across the spectrum of lubricants.
Best, Ted
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I would tell y'all about LSA Weapons Oil but you can look it up. Has kept US military arms functioning since 'Nam. IMO there is nothing better at any price and this stuff is dirt cheap and US petroleum tech in action.
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Doc Sane, I don't doubt it was used successfully by the ton, but tech in action? Todays synthetics allow much tighter tolerances and extreme working ranges for any number of consumer products that conventional petroleum products can't stand up to?
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Motorcycle chains are messy no matter what, but,the wax cuts down on the mess, considerably.
Best, Ted Moto Guzzi uses a clean, practically maintenance free shaft so you dont show up to the event like some dirty, grease spattered hoon. __________________________ EDgun Leshiy 2 (just because...Death to Starlings!)
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I would tell y'all about LSA Weapons Oil but you can look it up. Has kept US military arms functioning since 'Nam. IMO there is nothing better at any price and this stuff is dirt cheap and US petroleum tech in action.
Dr.WtS Used it decades ago as I got it by the case free, when they started issuing CLP I stopped as the CLP was better. LSA works and is cheap, but why use the stuff that just works instead of the best on a best gun. Vaseline can work as does 3 in 1 but Same reason to go to EP lubricants on hinge pins and locks as appropriate.
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Motorcycle chains are messy no matter what, but,the wax cuts down on the mess, considerably.
Best, Ted Moto Guzzi uses a clean, practically maintenance free shaft so you dont show up to the event like some dirty, grease spattered hoon. __________________________ EDgun Leshiy 2 (just because...Death to Starlings!) Low performance bikes are for low performance minds. Best, Ted ______________________________________ I saw a Hell's Outcast with a shirt that said "You 'ain't on a Harley, you 'ain't shit" and I asked him if the reverse was true, and I think it just confused him.
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Low performance bikes are for low performance minds.
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I'm talking about the old product - - not with the CLP which I think is a strange thing to dump into a lube. And y'all might want to check out what all is in the old stuff as it isn't just oil. My Perazzis and Berettas since coming to me have had nothing else and are for all intents wear-free with tens of thousands of rounds thru them over the years. BTW, Perazzi branded grease (which incidentally looks exactly like Campagnolo grease differing only by the name on the tube) appears to be some white lithium kinda stuff. I'm thinking Italians lack that vaseline enthusiasm in an official way.
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