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Originally Posted By: Lloyd3
If someone has a comorbidity problem or if they have a loved one with issues then, by all means, wear a mask. Just don't force me to do so. Many businesses here require a mask for entry and I grudgingly comply. It's the millitent, holier-than-thou stuff that I really resent. Serious virtue signalling by the lefties on this one.


Wow Lloyd! Your sense of community and pitching in to keep others safe from this virus is overwhelming. The folks in your community are so very fortunate. And in the spirit of community and keeping others safe. Get that big toe looked at. Looks pretty nasty and that fungus on it could spread and become contagious. Take care my friend! One way you can start by that is by washing your feet more frequently and keeping better hygiene.

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Exactly what I expected.

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You may always expect helpful, friendly advice from me Lloyd. Its up to you if you want to heed it.

Here is another reference for you about Covid-19. I find this has accurate data and helpful informational charts showing the steady upward progress of the disease in red states. Blue states that took "more stringent" precautions seem to be doing better with it now, save for california, as you see if you look at it.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shot...irus-in-the-u-s

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Well now, it looks as if we are in for another demonstration of the mental illness called Liberalism... courtesy of two of our complete Libturd idiots here who support and defend anti-gunners:

Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Ted, Craig, What strikes you as senseless destruction and historical erasure is a point of view that says we really ought to accept a third of our citizens as second and third rate in their basic rights. Like most conservatives, you can't figure out how, if you've somehow managed to succeed, anybody else couldn't also. It's almost a fair question. Our glorious leader's work throughout the plague has been a wonder to behold. We had it licked here, but it's back now worse than ever. One thing we have in common though: we're all in the vulnerable age group along with the man himself. Aren't you glad he's on your side?


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According to your buddies here Geo, they are telling you its just the flu. I for one hope you continue to wear your mask and stay safe and healthy. You are part of the of the vulnerable group. And sorry of you catch any flak for believing in the science on this.


nca225 is simply too ignorant to understand a lot of things about covid19, or anything else.

Covid19 is indeed a viral illness with symptoms identical to many strains of what we call the flu. It is a respiratory illness that has a wide range of effects. So far, it is not nearly as contagious, virulent, or dangerous as some flu viruses such as the H1N1 Spanish Flu strain that killed upwards of 50 to 100 million people between 1917 and 1919.

After that, the Spanish Flu pretty much went away on its' own, since there was never any vaccine developed for it at that time. All through history, viral illnesses and flu have come and gone on their own, yet Donald Trump is castigated and criticized for observing that Covid19 could do the same.

This new covid19 virus is different and very dangerous mostly because of how it has been politicized. Liberal Democrats are lying to us about the severity and spread, making the absurdly false claim that the United States has the largest number of cases in the world.

Fact is, we don't even really know how many cases China has, because they have lied about the severity and spread since the beginning of the pandemic. They still report a total of only 83.605 cases... a number that has scarcely changed in months... in a country of 1.4 Billion people where Social Distancing is virtually impossible.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

North Korea still claims zero covid19 cases, and Brazil reports over half as many cases as the U.S., with only one tenth as many total tests. Figures lie, and liars figure. And Fake News is not journalism. It is Liberal Lies.

But Libturds like rocky mtn bill and the transgender idiot nca225 would have you believe that the United States is worst in the world. Of course, we also must remember that more testing will naturally result in more confirmed cases. And there is also a political motivation now for over-reporting in an attempt to blame Trump for a viral pandemic. When it became apparent that Blue Liberal Democrat states such as New York were doing a very bad job of managing the virus outbreak, we suddenly saw a shift in numbers. We should also note that crowds at a Trump rally in a states where the total number of cases was among the lowest in the U.S. are irresponsible and dangerous. But crowds of Black Lives Matter protesters and looters in close proximity were deemed to not be a problem or vector fort disease spread.

These two are simply brainless Liberal Democrat sock-puppets.

But the bigger question about them trashing this thread is why old colonel Gladys Kravitz and her wormy pals never seem to have any problem with it. I know the answer to that, and it has nothing to do with honesty, integrity, or concern for this forum.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Please keep spreading your misinformation to your friends. Please.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30484-9/fulltext

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What part of my post was misinformation Nancy-boy?

I have worked through this entire pandemic crisis, and still do not personally know a single person who caught covid19. I take normal and reasonable precautions, but I am also regularly exposed to many people who do not wear masks, gloves, or show any real concern about sanitizing surfaces or hand washing. I've also noticed that many of the people who are most likely to blame Trump for increases in the number of infections are also more likely to be among those who act as if the pandemic has ended. My county is predominately Republican, but the adjoining Democrat controlled county has over 10 times as many reported cases and almost 40 times as many reported deaths. And those numbers are not explained by vast differences in population.

Anyone who thinks the coverage and the reality of covid19 is not extremely political is a complete idiot. And there is no bigger idiot than you Nancy-boy.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
....Craig, What strikes you as senseless destruction and historical erasure is a point of view that says we really ought to accept a third of our citizens as second and third rate in their basic rights....

....Aren't you glad he's on your side?

I couldnt care less about senseless destruction, go pick out your favorite hammer and have at your windshield. It is hypocritical that you can selectively deny criminal behavior? And youre right, old guys are just old guys. Unless you are planning for them to all be on welfare, Im glad your President is on the side of your grandkids. Sure, you can gift them an old sporter, but I suppose youre planning on kicking the bucket before you break news about how much they owe those second class citizens, huh Bill?

Oh, and for gun stories, I have an ok little 9mm in the truck, my road buddy, and no fitted case?

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Originally Posted By: Lloyd3
If someone has a comorbidity problem or if they have a loved one with issues then, by all means, wear a mask. Just don't force me to do so. Many businesses here require a mask for entry and I grudgingly comply. It's the millitent, holier-than-thou stuff that I really resent. Serious virtue signalling by the lefties on this one.


Wow Lloyd! Your sense of community and pitching in to keep others safe from this virus is overwhelming. The folks in your community are so very fortunate. And in the spirit of community and keeping others safe. Get that big toe looked at. Looks pretty nasty and that fungus on it could spread and become contagious. Take care my friend! One way you can start by that is by washing your feet more frequently and keeping better hygiene.


Typical, leftist symbolism over substance. As if, wearing a mask does a damn thing for your community or folks in it.



Put up any nonsense you want about a mask helping defeat a virus, any virus, Chris, and Ill post a dozen studies that refute it.

Masks wont help. Social distancing is a term that was lifted from a high schoolers science fair project a few years back, which, really doesnt do anything to prevent spread of viruses.

But, if there is one demonstrable thing that is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to help reduce the spread of COVID19, it is living in a city with a republican mayor, and, perhaps most important of all, living in a state with a republican Governor.

Absolutely indisputable.



The democrat governors who seeded nursing homes in their states with COVID19 positive patients are cold blooded killers, and guilty of war crimes against humanity.

Never waste a crisis, eh comrade?

Best,
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Arizona Ted. Republican governor. Red state (so far frown ) Loves Trump (except Tucson, Tempe and Flagstaff). Libertarian. Opened back up early. Unfortunately, the sunshine and heat theory was wrong. And then there was Old Town Scottsdale on Memorial Weekend.
Plenty of insane conspiracy theories to review here, but please DO read the many links I posted which are from credible sources
https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/is-the-covid-surge-more-fake-news.887097/

Testing "cases" have little meaning, other than as a trend.
Hospital bed occupancy is being skewed by the difficulty in transferring COVID + elderly (and homeless) to care facilities.
One can't fake humans in ICU beds however
Yesterday's stats for the state of Arizona:
1695 ICU beds available
ICU bed occupancy now 88% and fortunately stable
970 ICU beds occupied by COVID patients = about 65% and going up.

Things are still very bad on the Navajo Nation, but it does appear the curve is finally flattening, and deaths are going down. The Nation still has one of the highest per capita death rates in U.S. however. This is 3 weeks old
https://moabtimes.com/2020/06/25/covid-19-is-ravaging-the-navajo-nation/
There were initially low numbers of cases and deaths on the White Mountain Apache Rez but things are getting worse now
https://news.azpm.org/p/coronavirus/2020...op-coronavirus/

But we're WAY OT and that's it for me.

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Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein


Typical, leftist symbolism over substance. As if, wearing a mask does a damn thing for your community or folks in it.



Put up any nonsense you want about a mask helping defeat a virus, any virus, Chris, and Ill post a dozen studies that refute it.

Masks wont help. Social distancing is a term that was lifted from a high schoolers science fair project a few years back, which, really doesnt do anything to prevent spread of viruses.

But, if there is one demonstrable thing that is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to help reduce the spread of COVID19, it is living in a city with a republican mayor, and, perhaps most important of all, living in a state with a republican Governor.

Absolutely indisputable.



The democrat governors who seeded nursing homes in their states with COVID19 positive patients are cold blooded killers, and guilty of war crimes against humanity.

Never waste a crisis, eh comrade?

Best,
Ted



Would everyone please note that the midget tried to make a false point using a dated graph from early July.

The date of your graph is July 2nd. On July 2nd we had 2,724,640 cases in the US.

https://en.as.com/en/2020/07/02/latest_news/1593643054_879458.html

As of today we have 3,362,871
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shot...irus-in-the-u-s

That is that is nearly a 25% increase in cases in the US since the print date of the midget's graph and the vast majority of those new cases are from red state's like Texas, Florida, Arizona, and Georgia, as well as the blue state of California. Furthermore, it took 6 months to reach 2.7 million and two weeks to increase it by nearly 25%. Ironically the increase appeared after the red states started their early and ill advised re-openings.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/state-timeline/new-confirmed-cases/texas

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/state-timeline/new-confirmed-cases/florida

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/state-timeline/new-confirmed-cases/arizona

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/state-timeline/new-confirmed-cases/georgia

Look at those steep upward trends that started after July 1!

In fact Ted, If Florida under the Republican Ron DeSantis (Who fired the scientist in charge of Floridas Covid-19 database because she would not manipulate the data to support reopening certain counties early. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020...ata-reopen-plan) were a nation unto itself, it would be the 4th worst case for new infections on the planet.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-healt...s-idUSKCN24D0HE

So midget, do you see now how badly your foot gets shoved into your mouth and out your a$$ when you come at me with clearly outdated data to prove your ill informed point? Try harder cause although I do enjoy dismantling your arguments, its more fun when you have researched and worked hard at your homework.


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