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In 12 ga, I have used 15 grains of Nitro 100 (3/4 oz). Sometimes, it doesn't meter well but when it does it works fine. I'm just wondering what others are using. Many thanks, Gil


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PB. Bought 36 pounds of it in the last couple years. Should run me for a long time.

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when in doubt, use black, pyrodex or combo there of?


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I read a Tom Roster article recently that questioned the necessity for low pressure in damascus guns. Made me feel good because I've used bismuth which doesn't seem to be loaded to particularly low pressure. He seemed to think recoil was much more a problem...Geo

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Pretty sure we've discussed this issue a number of times here. And I know Doc Drew has posted information from contemporary literature, back when a lot of people were still shooting Damascus. The conclusion, as I recall, is that you don't need to go ultra low with pressure in Damascus barrels--assuming the gun is in condition to shoot in the first place. Many people looked for 5-6,000 psi recipes. Others suggested that if a gun won't handle something in the range of 7500 psi, you probably shouldn't be shooting it.

And of course there are Damascus guns which have been reproofed to current (or previous) nitro pressure standards. In which case you've got pretty solid guidance. If it's Brit and has a current reproof--either STD or the previous 850 bar--the service pressure standard is 10,730 psi.

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Hodgson's Longshot powder is used in many loads at lower pressures than some bp loads. Check out their website data.


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There are some decent low pressure loads for 7/8 ounce using Clays. Check the Hogdon manual. Very clean loads in my guns.

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I believe gil is simply asking for recipes we use

Our previous discussion regarding Roster's article, which has a link to the original
https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=564048&page=1

and my response on Shotgun World
https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=505616

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I use SR7625 in my 1 oz and 1 1/8 12ga 2 1/2 inch loads. I keep my pressures unde 6,000 PSI. I agree with Geo Newbern on keeping velocities down and stay under 1150 FPS. The results are dirty but effective on clays and quail.

I purchased 4 5lb containers years ago and I still have not finished the first one as I rarely shoot my hand me down Hodgson Damascus Hammergun. I also picked up 2,000 Gold Medal hulls, and 3,000 12S0 wads. it is the only 12 reloading I do other than RMC Brass Hulls.

I am basically a 16 ga guy.


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Originally Posted By: gil russell
In 12 ga, I have used 15 grains of Nitro 100 (3/4 oz). Sometimes, it doesn't meter well but when it does it works fine. I'm just wondering what others are using. Many thanks, Gil


Nitro 100 was 'reformulated' a good long time ago. What happened was they were forced by world politics and trade agreements to change manufacturers.

The 'new' stuff is quite unlike the old, and why they kept the name is a mystery.

Western does not publish the very low pressure loads for this 'formulation' like they did the old, and they publish nothing for 3/4 oz.

So, you're on your own unless you have a stash of the 'old' N100.

I'm still using up a hoard of AA Lite. When I'm out, I'll likely change to American Select.


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