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Craig, You're good at recognizing the symptoms, but when it comes to diagnosis, your inclination is to blame the patient for being ill. Of course reservation unemployment is high; there are no economies there. Those few hundred thousand acres are pretty desolate for the most part.... Wrong bill. Montana reservation land is some of the most beautiful and fertile in the state, well except for the burned out rusty cars. What you call desolate, a rancher calls perfect. Why would a tribe elder sell a tract to a small rancher on the rez? How come the rancher makes a go of it and the rez kids dont ask him for work, they break into the sheds and barns and steal chit? The resources are amazing, the motivation is equally amazing. Hay, grain, cattle, maybe oil, casinos sans intimidation and pilfering, those folks could kick some serious tail if they wanted to. You simplify and get a few things wrong Craig, Rez issues are very complicated to say the least. It has not been legal to sell Rez land to non-indians since 1934. The Rez I spend a ton of time on has been buying back land from non-indians for years. The allotted nature of much Rez land makes managing it very difficult. Imagine owning a 160 acre section with 37 land owners and running a successful ranch on it. The check my friend gets is once a year, for grazing rights and it is a tiny amount of money. The shares have been in his family for at least 4 generations, that is not welfare. The tribe does subsidize housing, utilities and more but that is how the tribe works. I know Rez kids who work on ranches and I know a few Indian ranchers that make more than a go of it. After 20 years of spending much of my fall on the Rez I have a very different view of it than you do. I like it enough I bought a house a short distance away. There are some damn fine folks up on those reservations and I eagerly await my return.
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I hear you a hundred and ten percent Steve. But no, my opinion is that you do not paint the entire picture of a fair chunk of Montana reservations. No big deal, in case you hadnt noticed, Bill doesnt quite see it the way you do either. Many good folks, I agree, but its tough to sugar coat if someones willing to see.
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Indians? Blame Columbus.
(I wish we could get a hockey/golf/motorcycle/badminton thread
going like one of these political threads)
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Indians? Blame Columbus.
(I wish we could get a hockey/golf/motorcycle/badminton thread
going like one of these political threads)
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Fookin Italians. Waiting for Columbus LR? Time to get this thread back on track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnMlwEl71kM
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Here you go LR Christopher Columbus, possibly from his and Carthusian friar Gaspar Gorricios The Book of Prophecies, found in America's Providential History by Stephen McDowell All who heard of my project rejected it with laughter, ridiculing me...There is no question that the inspiration was from the Holy Spirit, because He comforted me with rays of marvelous illumination from the Holy Scriptures...For the execution of the journey to the Indies, I did not make use of intelligence, mathematics, or maps. It is simply the fulfillment of what Isaiah had prophesied... Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in... That oughta' get this thread locked 
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be a mercy killing if you asked me...
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Hi, Drew/SKB https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/ci...tside-city-hallI guess well just tell the kids that the D.C. in our nations capital stands for the comic book company. ___________________________ If I dont like whatever statue they put up in Ohio Im going to vandalize the shyte out of it.
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Indians? Blame Columbus.
(I wish we could get a hockey/golf/motorcycle/badminton thread
going like one of these political threads)
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Craig, Yes lots of reservation country is beautiful. Some natives there can make a living. But they just don't have working economies. The Cheyenne have some coal. The Crows have lots of it. It's hard to sell coal nowadays. Rocky Boy has some great mountain terrain and lots of empty prairie. The Salish is much broken up with non-native ownership. The Blackfeet is more intact but a difficult climate. People there can't eat the scenery. It they wanted to sell their rights to much of their sacred ground, they could get a short- term boost from oil development. They refuse to do that. If you want to gain some historical perspective on reservation issues in this part of the country, I suggest you read Sandoz' Cheyenne Autumn, Welch's Winter in the Blood, and Brown's Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee. If you only have time for one, let it be Cheyenne Autumn.
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I spent a formative spring and summer in 1975 in the western Aleutians as a technician for the Fish and Wildlife Service. A few days on Adak, the Aleutian Islands Refuge HQ, and then by FWS boat to the Rat Islands at the end of the Chain (we could see Russia from there!). Just me and one other guy on several different islands, 'removing' introduced foxes as part of the endangered Aleutian Goose Recovery effort. That was my introduction to hunting, plus I wrote a nice little paper on snowy owls. That project was an enormous success: after fox removal and goose re-introduction, the once nearly extinct goose is now so abundant that it is an agricultural pest on its wintering grounds on the NW California coast, and there is a late hunting season in an effort to keep them off farmer's fields.
For my fiftieth birthday 23 years later, I took the ferry from Kodiak to Dutch Harbor and back - fabulous trip, and rather more comfortable than the summer of '75. Followed that with a week alone on Hallo Bay on the AK Peninsula to see big bears up close. Damn that was fun.
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