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Ive never, ever had an issue with the short chamber on my model 12 first year 20 gauge. No ripped ends, no excess recoil, no ejection problems, nothing. It has never had a short round in it, in the time Ive owned it.
That said, Im really glad it isnt a 16 gauge. Ive seen LOTS of hung up model 12 16 gauges, from every era.
Best, Ted
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The one ounce loads in a 28 are not that bad in a Model 12. I never worry about recoil in hunting situations. Few shells shot over extended time, often wearing heavier clothing. I even enjoy those monster 3 1/2 Roman candles in 12 & 10.
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Ted is right. A short chambered Model 12 20 gauge will normally handle 2 3/4" shells. A short chambered 16 gauge will not. Both are great little 6 pound guns when loaded with the right ammunition.
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Double post.
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but they are also the smallest and have short chambers (necessitating either a modification of the gun or 2 1/2-inch shells). My 1913 Model of 1912 20ga has unaltered chamber and ejection port, and it works just fine with any 2-3/4 shells I have used. Mine was also a well worn beater when I acquired it, but it has the 25 barrel with solid rib, full choke, now reblued and fitted with modern Win factory checkered wood. Original wood boxed up for the next owner.
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I had a Model 12 in 28 ga, 1935 vintage, 26" with mod choke and Simmons vent rib. My records show that it weighed 6 lb 15 oz.. It handled well and functioned perfectly. Bit heavy for a 28 gauge but still a real nice field gun. Barrel was marked 2 7/8" chamber---I recall later models were marked 2 3/4".
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The one ounce loads in a 28 are not that bad in a Model 12. I never worry about recoil in hunting situations. Few shells shot over extended time, often wearing heavier clothing. I even enjoy those monster 3 1/2 Roman candles in 12 & 10. Did I ever tell you about the detached retina in my shooting eye? I figured I would be learning to shoot from the other side, but, the doc warned me there was plenty of lattice (weak spots) in that eye, indicating it was likely I would be seeing him again. The vision in my shooting eye leaves a lot to be desired. I muddle along. Recoil isnt your friend. Best, Ted
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Sorry to hear about your eye. Eyes are bad when they fail. Even a great eye doctor has limitation. Ive had both shoulders revised, one rebuilt. Recoil is not anyones friend. Hunting I rarely notice recoil. But then again I like heavier guns just fine and rarely use super light weight guns. I shoot a 20ga/30 Flues which is 5.25 pounds and a Pape 20 which is about the same. My Ruger 28 is 6.25 pounds and the Ithaca 28 model 37 is about the same. The model 12 is no light weight so recoil is not excessive. I just wish I could shoot lead shot in it at ducks like I did 50 years ago. I wish I had those ducks to shoot again as well.
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I had a Model 12 in 28 ga, 1935 vintage, 26" with mod choke and Simmons vent rib. My records show that it weighed 6 lb 15 oz.. It handled well and functioned perfectly. Bit heavy for a 28 gauge but still a real nice field gun. Barrel was marked 2 7/8" chamber---I recall later models were marked 2 3/4". That was a Simmons upgrade since the 28G wasnt introduced until 1937. Again, I keep hearing those upgrades were smooth cycling guns. There is nothing wrong with an upgraded Simmons 28g- at the right price of course.
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I keep wondering to myself how the factory 28 gauges come in 1/2 pound or so heavier than the 20s?
And, who bought them?
Best, Ted
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