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As a Yankee whose parents migrated from Texas and Mississippi to the North during the depression, I'll second Joe's statement. Our current division seems threatening to what so many died for in the 1860's.


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Originally Posted By: graybeardtmm3
...you're judged by the company you keep.


So true. So true.


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well, tell us bill, in your opinion, what did so many die for in the 1860's...was it for wealth and power?

and what are the causes of our current division and how are they a threat to us...wealth and power again, i suspect...


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Originally Posted By: ed good
....we dwell a lot here about the injustice of the distant past that resulted in our civil war...maybe we should be more focused on the injustices that have occurred more recently during our time on this earth...

Or, we could dwell on color blind justice and not how you feel like justice should be.

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craig, let us agree then, that justice should be blind, color or otherwise?

and that we should all be equal before the law?

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The South suffered poverty and denigration for 100 years after the WBTS. It alone of all of America lost a war, was occupied, had its towns destroyed, houses burnt out, refugees streaming roads being murdered, transportation routes destroyed. It clawed its way out of it. But "waving the bloody shirt" and hatred of its inhabitants continues to this day in many sectors.

But you can't change history and the WBTS is Southern History. It is our heritage. I do not agree with the politically correct that monuments to our ancestors be torn down, that Christopher Columbus was a mass murderer, that Jackson be taken off the currency because he was beastly to the Indians. Our history is our history and cannot be erased or purged communist style.

George McDonald Fraser, the creator of that glorious reprobate coward hero Flashman, wrote an essay on the dangerous spread of political correctness just before he died in 2008. It is worth a read in its entirety here - not long but apt.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...yed-itself.html

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And Lonesome Road - anybody who knows where is Musa Qala gets a pass in my book Yankee or not. Musa Qala is north of Lashkar Gah in Helmand Province, and controls three valleys entering the Hindu Kush from the south. The Brits basically allowed the Taliban to take it over in 2005. When I visited Lashkar Gah in Fall 2007 there was a plan by some outstanding Afghan officers to retake it. It is inhabited by Alizai Durranis, elements of 3 of the Alizai Khels the Hassanzai, Karzai and the Pirzai, which mutually hate each other.

(Oh wait, that's totally OT and part of the worst line ever posted on this board...my bad).


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Originally Posted By: Argo44
The South suffered poverty and denigration for 100 years after the WBTS. It alone of all of America lost a war, was occupied, had its towns destroyed, houses burnt out, refugees streaming roads being murdered, transportation routes destroyed. It clawed its way out of it. But "waving the bloody shirt" and hatred of its inhabitants continues to this day in many sectors.


The waving goes both ways, Argo. Let's move on from the waving of anything. We have different fish to fry today, and they need attention.


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Originally Posted By: ed good
craig, let us agree then, that justice should be blind, color or otherwise?

and that we should all be equal before the law?

Sure ed, but who's fry'in the fish? Where can I sign up for being in charge of selectively applying the law?

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craig: become a judge with an agenda...


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