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#569296 - 04/08/20 08:32 PM Re: Lefever Nitro 410 or Fulton 410 or Hunter 410 or?? [Re: Craig Larter]
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“So what is the most desirable vintage American made 410 sXs field/utility grade 410??” You never said you were looking to buy anything so:
Parker VH .410


Edited by RARiddell (04/08/20 08:34 PM)

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#569298 - 04/08/20 08:48 PM Re: Lefever Nitro 410 or Fulton 410 or Hunter 410 or?? [Re: Craig Larter]
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The field grade LC Smith .410s ask no quarter, either. Beautiful, and highly sought after, guns.

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#569301 - 04/08/20 09:23 PM Re: Lefever Nitro 410 or Fulton 410 or Hunter 410 or?? [Re: Craig Larter]
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Just one man's opinion, but except for trading stock I wouldn't trade a good 20 gauge DS grade Lefever for the whole lot of them.
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#569314 - 04/09/20 12:20 AM Re: Lefever Nitro 410 or Fulton 410 or Hunter 410 or?? [Re: Craig Larter]
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Originally Posted By: Craig Larter
So what is the most desirable vintage American made 410 sXs field/utility grade 410?? The Lefever Nitro 410, Hunter Arms Hunter 410 ,Fulton 410, Crescent Arms or what??

Craig,

If you'd like to see how an Ithaca Lefever Nitro Special .410 with 26" barrels feels, I'd be happy to let you try mine. Choked Mod and Full and the stock measures about 14" x 1 5/8" x 2 1/2" but it seems to feel a little shorter. This is a late one with SN 356464 and 3"chambers.

I've shot a lot of cotton tail rabbits, some grouse and even a couple pheasants when we had wild ones.

I got the gun more than 50 years ago from Pearson's Gun Shop in Auburn, NY for $150.00 plus $7.50 tax.

You are welcome to see how it handles. Send me an email if you'd like to try it and we can work out the details.






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#569330 - 04/09/20 10:45 AM Re: Lefever Nitro 410 or Fulton 410 or Hunter 410 or?? [Re: Craig Larter]
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The last coupla years I shot kick-em-up quail, I used a Lefever/Ithaca Nitro Special very like the post above. Fun to use, but if I were still hunting quail I'd rather shoot a 20ga. The first "collecting" double I bought was an A Grade Nitro Special 20 from the old Cape Outfitters...Geo

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#569333 - 04/09/20 11:04 AM Re: Lefever Nitro 410 or Fulton 410 or Hunter 410 or?? [Re: Craig Larter]
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I enjoy guns that are about the same condition as they left the store the first time.
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#569355 - 04/09/20 03:06 PM Re: Lefever Nitro 410 or Fulton 410 or Hunter 410 or?? [Re: Daryl Hallquist]
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Originally Posted By: Daryl Hallquist

I enjoy guns that are about the same condition as they left the store the first time.


I agree they can be both beautiful and interesting, however I find it a little sad that unused they have not met their purpose to exist which is to be used and loved. Whenever I see a gun in true original mint condition decades after it was made, it feels like it is still birthed or waiting to leave the womb to live.
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#569362 - 04/09/20 03:44 PM Re: Lefever Nitro 410 or Fulton 410 or Hunter 410 or?? [Re: Craig Larter]
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The Field Grade L.C. Smith .410-bore is the most common of the higher grade .410s, with 2375 produced. Ithaca produced 790 Field Grade .410-bores and Parker Bros. produced 469 VH-/VHE-Grade .410-bores. Parker Bros. didn't offer their entry-level gun, the Trojan Grade in .410-bore. In the 1929 Stoeger Catalog No. 10, the Parker Bros. VH-Grade listed at $68, the L.C. Smith Field Grade listed at $40 and the Field Grade Ithaca NID listed at $37.50.

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#569379 - 04/09/20 06:05 PM Re: Lefever Nitro 410 or Fulton 410 or Hunter 410 or?? [Re: Craig Larter]
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Thanks Dave, a NID would be my first choice in that group as it has many similar characteristics mechanically with a Fox.Being a western NY lifetime resident has always attracted me to Ithaca and LC Smith manufactured guns, A Elsie would be a nice choice but obtaining a decent example is a 5$++ purchase. A Parker VH 410 would be nice but crazy money. So I think it's a Ithaca Lefever Nitro 410 as a starter in average condition for me. Maybe a nice Fulton and a higher condition Nitro in the future, or as NID. Got to have goals.


Edited by Craig Larter (04/09/20 06:06 PM)

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#569383 - 04/09/20 07:44 PM Re: Lefever Nitro 410 or Fulton 410 or Hunter 410 or?? [Re: Craig Larter]
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Be very careful to test the waters, Craig. The .410 path is fraught with temptations and attractions. I found myself on that path about 9 years ago, because of my grandsons. It has become quite a surprising walk for a hardcore duckman used to heavily loaded 12s.

You may be "evolving". wink

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