July
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Who's Online
2 registered (dearmer, fuhrmann), 5 Guests and 0 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
13841 Members
10 Forums
34511 Topics
483482 Posts

Max Online: 462 @ 08/05/16 09:13 PM
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >
Topic Options
#569218 - 04/07/20 03:19 PM Perfect choke combination
Jalo Offline
Boxlock

Registered: 11/21/19
Posts: 13
Hello everybody. This is my first post here. I happened to find a Miroku model 500 with 28" barrels, pistol grip and beaver tail fore end. It weighs around 7,5 lbs. I'm planning to use the gun for both waterfowling with steel shot and shooting woodpigeon with lead shot.(Bismuth is not a reasonable option here in Europe right now and I believe it will never be.) The chokes are modified and full. Because of the steel shot I will open the chokes and also lenghten the forcing cones. As here are many knowledgeable double gun people I thought I could find an answer to the question of perfect choke combination. Would it be improved cylinder and modified, light modified and modified, modified and modified or something else perhaps?


Edited by Jalo (04/07/20 03:22 PM)

Top
#569220 - 04/07/20 03:36 PM Re: Perfect choke combination [Re: Jalo]
old colonel Offline
Sidelock
***

Registered: 03/05/09
Posts: 1792
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
I will speak heresy, consider choke tube if installation of steel shot capable chokes is possible.

While my lead shot wild bird hunting has been .005&.015, and my preserve shooting .000&.010 having the ability to shoot the same gun and change the chokes is something my long gone Citori 16 addicted me to.

Because you are a Waterfowler and Pigeon shooter and If staying with fixed chokes and steel I would consider 005&.015 which is a open IC and open Mod. You could go tighter, but I unless you are a true long range shot (40 yards plus) most of the time you maybe over choked.

Lastly I would say there is no such thing as perfect.


Edited by old colonel (04/07/20 03:39 PM)
_________________________
Michael Dittamo
Topeka, KS

Top
#569223 - 04/07/20 03:49 PM Re: Perfect choke combination [Re: Jalo]
BrentD Offline
Sidelock
**

Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 4631
Loc: Iowa
I would vote withe old colonel, though I don't know the circumstances of your hunting. Will ducks be over decoys?

If they were jump hunted or pass shooting (and I assume that wood pigeons might be the latter), then I would bet tempted go with 0.15 in both barrels if the ranges are normally longish for first shots.
_________________________
_________
...never pay Dave "one more dime" (thanks Stanlie)

Top
#569225 - 04/07/20 04:10 PM Re: Perfect choke combination [Re: Jalo]
skeettx Offline
Sidelock
**

Registered: 06/03/08
Posts: 4715
Loc: Amarillo, Texas
Hello Jalo
WELCOME on your first posting smile

Yes, what old colonel says

Mike


Edited by skeettx (04/07/20 05:08 PM)

Top
#569226 - 04/07/20 04:11 PM Re: Perfect choke combination [Re: Jalo]
BrentD Offline
Sidelock
**

Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 4631
Loc: Iowa
Jalo, in what country are you hunting?
_________________________
_________
...never pay Dave "one more dime" (thanks Stanlie)

Top
#569227 - 04/07/20 04:17 PM Re: Perfect choke combination [Re: Jalo]
craigd Offline
Sidelock
**

Registered: 02/18/09
Posts: 6520
Does the gun have to go back to proof after the barrel work? Why not just pattern the modified barrel as is and see what happens before you make a decision? For how this situation is described, I’d pattern the full barrel too. What’s the downside?

Top
#569231 - 04/07/20 04:55 PM Re: Perfect choke combination [Re: Jalo]
ed good Offline
Sidelock
*

Registered: 01/25/02
Posts: 7284
Loc: nh an fla
consider chokes mod and mod and then use spreader loads for more open patterns?
_________________________
birds are gone...dogs are gone...awl we got left are the gons...

Top
#569232 - 04/07/20 05:06 PM Re: Perfect choke combination [Re: Jalo]
Jalo Offline
Boxlock

Registered: 11/21/19
Posts: 13
Thanks everybody! I'm from Finland. Fixed choked gun is the only way for me so I guess I should be talking about the "perfect" compromise. My hunting will be all: over decoys, pass shooting and sometimes also jump shooting (ducks). The gun doesn't have to go back to proof. I have done some patterning with lead shot and even the modified choke is patterning fairly tight. Full choke is certainly tight.

Top
#569233 - 04/07/20 05:08 PM Re: Perfect choke combination [Re: Jalo]
skeettx Offline
Sidelock
**

Registered: 06/03/08
Posts: 4715
Loc: Amarillo, Texas
Hello Jalo

If no tubes, I would go with IC/Light Mod as old colonel says

Question, are the bores chrome lined?

Mike


Edited by skeettx (04/07/20 05:10 PM)
_________________________

USAF RET 1971-95

Top
#569234 - 04/07/20 05:09 PM Re: Perfect choke combination [Re: Jalo]
Karl Graebner Offline
Sidelock
**

Registered: 05/15/16
Posts: 1032
Loc: SE Michigan
Jalo,
Welcome to the forum. I believe Micheal has the best suggestion. Most steel shells pattern tight to begin with.
Karl

Top
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >



doublegunshop.com home | Welcome | Sponsors & Advertisers | DoubleGun Rack | Doublegun Book Rack

Order or request info | Other Useful Information

Updated every minute of everyday!


Copyright (c) 1993 - 2019 doublegunshop.com. All rights reserved. doublegunshop.com - Bloomfield, NY 14469. USA These materials are provided by doublegunshop.com as a service to its customers and may be used for informational purposes only. doublegunshop.com assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions in these materials. THESE MATERIALS ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANT-ABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT. doublegunshop.com further does not warrant the accuracy or completeness of the information, text, graphics, links or other items contained within these materials. doublegunshop.com shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation, lost revenues or lost profits, which may result from the use of these materials. doublegunshop.com may make changes to these materials, or to the products described therein, at any time without notice. doublegunshop.com makes no commitment to update the information contained herein. This is a public un-moderated forum participate at your own risk.

Note: The posting of Copyrighted material on this forum is prohibited without prior written consent of the Copyright holder. For specifics on Copyright Law and restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum.