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#569100 - 04/05/20 11:41 AM Re: More on 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz load [Re: L. Brown]
ksauers1 Offline
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Brent, do you know what the pressure is on these? L do you load llead and bismuth?

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#569101 - 04/05/20 11:57 AM Re: More on 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz load [Re: L. Brown]
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I’ve used quite a few of the Federal Pheasants Forever 1 1/4 Oz 12 gauge in either 5s (later season) or 6s, (earlier, or, sometimes, just in the more open choke). It is/was a good load, but, I think the Beretta Silver Snipe I fed them to was at the very top of the service pressure it should be used with.

The R10 Darne was not.

Best,
Ted

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#569102 - 04/05/20 12:01 PM Re: More on 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz load [Re: L. Brown]
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Up to seventy I was not recoil sensitive at all. I am now. I have found that low pressure low recoil RST #5's kill turkeys dead as they come. I only shoot pheasants when somebody tosses them off a tower for me, but the RST shells work fine there as well...Geo

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#569103 - 04/05/20 12:30 PM Re: More on 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz load [Re: Geo. Newbern]
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I didn't know how sensitive I was to recoil until, at age 12 or so 75 years ago, I saw where my shot hit the water while shooting at an eider. I managed the problem by going to low-base shells, then reloading and smaller gauges. My big-game rifles are 7 X 57 and 250-3000. The results have been most satisfactory.

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#569108 - 04/05/20 01:00 PM Re: More on 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz load [Re: L. Brown]
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My faves are 2 3/4", 3 1/4 - 1 1/4 for crows, and 2 3/4", 3 3/4 - 1 1/4 for flyers. I've found I don't need that much load for pheasants at tower shoots. Been invited to maybe four of them. Took a 12 to the first couple, but a 16 to the rest. 1 1/8 oz. out of a tight choked 16 kills them like lightning.

The flyer loads don't bother me at all out of my 9 lb. MX8.

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#569111 - 04/05/20 02:48 PM Re: More on 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz load [Re: L. Brown]
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I used to shoot 2 3/4 ammo loaded with Alcan powders for duck hunting

3 3/4 dram x 1 3/8 ounce of #5 ,

Wow, Now the heavy ammo gets shot in an autoloader,
the sane stuff in a double or sideways double

Mike
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#569114 - 04/05/20 03:39 PM Re: More on 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz load [Re: L. Brown]
Karl Graebner Offline
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My experience mirrors George Newbern's. I use RST's 1 oz. # 5's to great effect on pheasants and late season grouse. I believe that 1 oz. in the proper shot size is plenty for any upland game bird.
Karl

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#569115 - 04/05/20 04:06 PM Re: More on 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz load [Re: L. Brown]
Drew Hause Offline
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re: Kent's Bismuth load pressures; published in 2018
Kent Bismuth® Premium Upland 2 3/4”, 1 1/16 oz., 1325 fps, 10,000 psi
Kent Bismuth® Premium Waterfowl 2 3/4”, 1 1/4 oz, 1325 fps, 10,800 psi

Major Sir Gerald Burrard, The Modern Shotgun, Volume II, “The Cartridge”, 1955 3rd Revised Edition listed 12g 2 3/4” 1 1/4 oz. 3 1/4 Dr. Eq. "Standard Service" at 9,296 psi; Maximum Service at 11,984 psi.

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#569124 - 04/05/20 05:53 PM Re: More on 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz load [Re: ksauers1]
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Originally Posted By: ksauers1
Brent, do you know what the pressure is on these? L do you load llead and bismuth?


Yes, but not off the top of my head.
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#569126 - 04/05/20 05:57 PM Re: More on 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz load [Re: Karl Graebner]
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Originally Posted By: Karl Graebner
My experience mirrors George Newbern's. I use RST's 1 oz. # 5's to great effect on pheasants and late season grouse. I believe that 1 oz. in the proper shot size is plenty for any upland game bird.
Karl


1 oz is great if you are shooting close, the wind is down, and you centerpunch every shot. Heck, I've know maestros that shot them well with .410s. I am not a maestro, I hunt when it blows hard and sometimes the shots can be longish. Everyone has to do what he or she feels is best. I like 1.25 oz of #5s best.
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