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Uncle Fester,
I have no intention of wasting my time going round in circles with an an agenda driven delusional old man. I think my opinions have been expressed clearly in my previous posts .
You�re bizarre preoccupation with stop and frisk laws has no bearing on the opinions I have already clearly stated.
For the record , as I previously stated and you conveniently ignored
I have no problem in police searching if in doing so they feel that it will increase public safety. I�m assuming this a political talking point in America just now.
I am a lifelong enthusiast of double guns have read the weekly columns of Gough Thomas and Geoffrey Boothroyd since the 1970s I was on first name terms with Geoffrey and corresponded with him as did many gun enthusiasts and when he wrote a short biography of himself in the Shooting Times he illustrated the article with a picture that I had taken of him.

My interests are mainly double gun and I have an extensive collection of double gun titles ,all of Gough Thomas ,Geoffrey Boothroyd, Donald Dallas , Michael McIntosh , Bob Brister, Don Masters with many double gun books you�ve probably never heard of. A complete collection of Double Gun Journals and 20 years of Shooting Sportsman magazines amongst many others.

So I am a double gun enthusiast and one who quite categorically would not think of promoting the possession of assault rifles or hand guns for the reasons I have outlined in previous posts.
You find that hard to accept but the Scottish people are uninterested in relaxing the present laws to allow unstable characters like yourself ,and I think this thread has exposed your instability , to possess such weapons.

For some reason the kids in this country have no tendency to turn up at school with any firearm to shoot their class mates that�s a problem you have in the states probably because idiots like yourself normalise the ownership of military weapons as a solution to your problems.

Your failure to deal with my original opinion and your habit of filling your posts with irrelevant asides and insults does nothing to promote your views.

The people of Scotland have no wish to relax the existing laws to allow ownership of centre fire assault rifles or hand guns far less unlicensed ownership. Should you travel over to promote those views you would be seen as the sad extremist you are. The people here are not and never have been sheep read up on the Glasgow Airport attack of 2007 . To quote John Smeaton one of the guys who tackled the terrorists unarmed � Don�t come toGlasgow we�ll set aboot ye� epitomises the fighting spirit still very much alive today.
. You would be getting your arse kicked all the way back to the US of A to the security of your extensive collection of personal protection weapon if you travelled over here to promote the unlicensed ownership of assault rifles and hand guns . You may need them at home we the Scots don�t need them here.

Uncle Fester we agreed earlier you were the internet couch potato warrior etc those were my insults in response to yours can�t you dream up any imaginative ones yourself.

Your equating matches trucks cars and anything that can be used to harm with military weapons is both desperate and amusing. In the interests of public safety I think BATF should raid your home and take every weapon ,including the contents of your kitchen knife drawer.

Here in Scotland we�ll have a whip round for a cap gun so you can relive the good old days in your head, you can�t say fairer than that Uncle Fester.

That would make a good regimental saying.




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Now who�s bad enuff ta do all a dat?

Yes Coward3inch, I agree that you have been clear in your opinions. And your opinions are clearly anti-gun.

I just love how you think your anti-gun opinions represent the opinions of all the gun owners in Scotland. Do you have some proof that they all feel the same as you? Were your restrictive gun bans the result of a referendum or vote by gun owners... or were these laws imposed by your tyrannical government?

You have also made it clear that You are afraid to answer my questions, and instead you twist and squirm to evade answering directly. I told you that I wasn't asking what you yourself thought of Stop and Frisk... And you reply with the idiotic answer that you had already told me what you thought. Billy will be gratified to know that there are people as stupid as him in Scotland. Does wearing a kilt make it that much easier to put your head up your ass Coward3inch?

I am only being repetitive and redundant in my questioning to demonstrate both your cowardice, and/or your total lack of reading comprehension.

This is very reminiscent of trying to debate nca225 or Gladys Kravitz.

You just don't get it Coward3inch. Guns are a tool. An inanimate object as incapable of causing injury or death as a truck or a book of matches, unless incorrectly used and directed by an evil person.

A law abiding handgun owner or semi-automatic rifle owner is no worse and no more evil than a law abiding truck driver, or a law abiding user of matches, knives, hammers, golf clubs, baseball bats, or any other inanimate object that evil men have used as weapons.

So why do you need a Ruger .243 to shoot deer? I find a flintlock is better and more sporting. What personal inadequacy are you covering with your need for a scoped sniper gun? Isn't that how you anti-gunners justify your hatred for firearms?

But naturally, as a devout anti-gunner, you don't see it that way. I could cite a thousand mass killings where the weapon of choice was not a firearm, and you will still be stuck on the guns You dislike... just like a good little anti-gunner. You also are afraid to admit that rocky mtn bill's Mauser bolt rifles, and your Model 12 Winchester pump have been and remain as potentially deadly military weapons.

I was amused by your thinly veiled threats about coming to Scotland and getting my ass kicked. I think you are a loser and a cowardly sheep who has nothing but keyboard muscles. You are a joke with no credibility and no brain. But if you come to the United States, Coward3inch... You will be welcomed with open arms... by the anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats who think exactly like you.

The rest of us who cherish our freedoms and who are not spineless sheep... not so much.

The self gratification is endless:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BD5m40an-4

Are you talking about the thrill you get when wearing buckle strap girls shoes?

Looks like your gutless doxxing pal BrentD has decided to share everything that he has in his head.

If you are to be believed, how come the kids of Scotland have no tendency to become double gun enthusiast or wildfowl hunters?

Isn't your original opinion and things that you brush off as irrelevant, the reason that all recreational shooting sport in Scotland has a contracting future? And, just as you try to pass off as fact other opinions that just aren't true, where do you get your information about the tendencies of American kids?

What again was your reason why your field sport collectives and state run ammunition industry don't promote and sponsor youth shooting events? Never mind I think your answer was the people Scotland said no, or at least your shooting sports future are in the hands of fifty percent plus one hopefully citizens. Hey, I'm sure he's working on something, why don't you get Mr. Dallas to do a teaser preview of an upcoming book down in the maker forum? Request lots of pictures, the table of contents, foreward, and a few excerpts for the US folks, and a couple of historical pictures of youth of the past for your Scottish kids to hopefully nurture that spark that's fading before you.

CraigD The decline in junior membership of wildfowling clubs ,one of the most reasonably priced forms of shooting, is well documented. This decline is mirrored in youngsters membership numbers in fishing associate membership and in golf club membership here in Scotland. There are just more options available to teenagers now. The trend seems to be that they participate when younger then fall away from the sport in their mid teens. With fishing there is a tendency for people to return to it in later life probably because it is such a relaxing sport.
I get my information from the newspapers reporting on the killing of school pupils by their school friends,Columbine springs to mind. I�m sure there are others ,look them up on your computer.



Access to shooting is the main problem for kids especially those with no family tradition of shooting. Also the commercialisation of shooting to accommodate rich foreigners has led to a reduction in small rough shoots that were the norm 50 years and more back. Saying that there are opportunities if kids are keen, if they beat during the season it is the norm to have beaters shoot days just before the end of the season and pigeon shooting on estates out of the game season can be acquired. Mainly it�s lack of interest coupled with lack of opportunities.

Universities and colleges have their clay pigeon clubs, I ran one for three years.
I don�t know of any ammunition sponsored youth events though I was involved in the past in the BASC run young shot days through local wildfowling clubs which are supported by ammunition manufacturers.

It would be great to be able to encourage more kids ,I don�t think the Donald Dallas book idea would necessarily be a crowd puller though.

�If you are to be believed � Do you have a rational reason as to why I would lie ?

That's an easy question Coward3inch...

.... because you have already been caught lying and changing your story, and because anti-gunners like you have a long history of lying to advance their agenda.

You know... like calling a semi-automatic AR-15 a military assault gun when no military on earth ever utilized a semi-auto version of an AR-15.

Another example would be King Brown claiming that the words of our 2nd Amendment are difficult to comprehend, or as he said last night, "short on details."

If it looks like an anti-gunner, and acts like an anti-gunner, and sounds like an anti-gunner, you can rest assured it really is an anti-gunner. And hiding behind a pile of gun books and magazines isn't going to fool anyone except idiots like rocky mtn bill. Yes, that rocky mtn bill... The guy who is proud to support and vote for Liberal Left Democrat anti-gunners.