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10.06 / 739 is the Zella - Mehlis datecode which denotes that it was number 739 for the month of Oktober, 1906 to pass thru the Z-M proof facility. AK was the actioner & LK was the tubeset knitter. The vulgar fraction 17/1(0.655") is an old gauge diameter and was not in mm. If absent of choke, the tube will not wear the Crown over W(Würgebohrung).
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Regarding the >>OO<< stamp, the probability is high that the name of the mechanic was Otto Oehring and he advertisted as a specialist in converting buffalo horn to the true form for the several applications it was adapted to on sporting arms.
He also was noted as a Gewehrschäfterei & I guess he was a stocker / shafter?
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I would say that the engraver was Z-M mechanic Gustav Ernst, but he passed in 1899 so for sure it was one of his students as he was the Master in the Z-M area. Now have I seen an Oerhring mentioned and possibly with a family relationship it could have been him. On the floorplate / bottom side of the action the engraving is very similar to that of „Raschsche Karreegravierung“, or Rasch's Square Engraving.
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Raimey,
You are correct,"shafter" is the common term for "stockmaker". a Gewehrschaefteri would be a "gunstock maker".
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Thanks Ford. So, if Otto Oerhring made any horn and shafted the dreiling, would he have applied his initials to the water-table?
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Just for reference, Burrard gives decimal equivalents for the following vulgar fractions: 16/1 - 0.669" 16 - 0.662" 17/1 - 0.655" 17 - 0.649" Below is a link to an antiquated post with the German plug gauge values in mm: https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=213433#Post213433Difficult to see the decimal values but my wish would be to see an image in better focus when enlarged. Cheers, Raimey rse
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Raimey,
I'm not sure the stockmaker would apply any marks to the water-table. His work would be obvious without a mark. If the stockmaker marked anything, you would think it would be the wood and I don't recall many if any being so marked.
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Text available on wiki Markus
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Nice find & many thanks for the effort. I wonder where they acquired it and if they have use of the intellectual property?
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Just for reference, Burrard gives decimal equivalents for the following vulgar fractions:
16/1 - 0.669"
16 - 0.662"
17/1 - 0.655"
17 - 0.649"
Below would be the vulgar fraction data from the German proof tables with values in mm:
16/1- 16,99mm
16- 16,81mm
17/1- 16,64mm
17- 16,48mm
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Raimey
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