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Have the barrels on the gun in question been shortened? If "yes" then the value would already have been destroyed. If the "short" barrels are original length, IMO if you have them sleeved you might be cutting the value by 1/3 to 1/2. YMMV You would be putting a bunch of money into the gun, AND cutting the value. If you have to buy the gun, you are out more money. Might make sense on grandpa’s gun. But, I still champion the notion of just walking away, and buying a better gun. One that is in proof, sound as a dollar, and needs nothing. Best, Ted
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The answer is on Holt's auction. "Barrels replaced by another" and "barrels sleeved" are the kiss of death to the value of a top tier English gun. They are nice guns, but the price is very much less than a high condition original gun. Of course, even worse is "wall thickness below recommended minimums". Those wild and crazy Brits!!
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Bottom line: sleeving and rebarreling done right are fine for using guns sold at the right price. The great shots of the 1900s, the original customers of bespoke gunmakers, rebarreled their guns. If it was OK for them, it is probably OK for us.
The collecting thing is a little strange for bespoke items. It is like collecting Savile Row suits, OK for tailors who want to study the stitching etc, but kind of strange for users of the item.
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Bottom line. Buy a better gun.
Best,
Ted
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Here is my take on this.
1. Sleeving will be a discount argument whether good or bad.
The amount will depend (MHO) on who wants to buy and who wants to sell. I would use it as a bargaining chip in every case, and I suspect the market operates that way.
2. I think we do know how Ted feels about this. Maybe he should give it a rest.......
Dumb, but learning...Prof Em, BSc(ME), CAE (FYI)
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A guy asked a question. Maybe you should start your own forum where you pick and choose who responds.
I promise I won’t be there.
Best,
Ted
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A guy asked a question. Maybe you should start your own forum where you pick and choose who responds.
I promise I won’t be there.
Best,
Ted Touchy, touchy...... Question asked, my answer given. Carry on Ted, I aint stopping you Just a c o m m e n t.
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Nobody ever came up with a third answer to the question I asked and,
provided two answers for. That being “Reasons to buy a sleeved gun”.
I came up with “They are cheap” and, “Other guys have them”.
Indulge me. Come up with a sound third reason.
Best,
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It really seems pretty simple to me. if you're a collector, then no. if your just a hunter,then you can get a better gun that would normally be out of your price range.
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" Just a hunter" ?  SRH
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