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Sidelock
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Sidelock
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Buzz,
Perazzi insist that they carry out destruction testing on one out of every 60 barrel sets they make. I wonder if any London best makers have an equally strict quality control procedure.
It is very doubtful, IMO. SRH
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Sidelock
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I love Perazzi guns but Im not so sure about their quality testing seeing as how the side ribs and top ribs come/pop loose on their guns which appears to be a fairly common thing. Ive got an old one now where that is the case. I look at their guns as high performance, high maintenance . In terms of the English guns, how would you know they dont quality test their guns? Im guessing there is indeed some quality control in putting out guns that cost approximately $100,000.00 and have the reputation of being the finest guns in the world. Give me a break......
Socialism is almost the worst.
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Sidelock
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Sidelock
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Reputation is not substitute for quality control.
Since 1985 I have been in a situation that involves handling and often dismantling good shotguns, among them many London bests, on a daily basis. There is also a lot of contact with the craftsmen that build them and repair them. Familiarity dispels magic.
I have seen popped ribs on all kinds of guns, which is why I detest ribs and admire Martin's Ribless doubles. By the way Martin Ribless were in fact built for Martin by the Brown brothers, and ironically their shotguns are more highly valued by collectors than Martin guns. Which kind of shows that price is not the best guide in judging quality!
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Sidelock
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Sidelock
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IMO, all doubles with soft soldered ribs are subject to ribs loosening. Perazzis do so, I had one that did, and had it repaired. But, when you consider the usage that many Perazzis see, it is not surprising. Mine had been "rode hard" before it came to me. The real question is why they don't go to a stronger method of joining, like K guns and Blasers.
There used to be a video on YouTube that showed Perazzi destruction testing barrels. Last time I looked I couldn't find it.
SRH
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Ive read here -say that Perazzi is concerned barrel harmonics would be negatively impacted if they went to a more substantial rib soldering process. I dont know if there is any truth to that statement??
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Sidelock
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A collector friend has several Perazzis (most of Trap configuration) and decided to get a game model. I convinced him to order one with no side ribs. The difference in handling and balance the absence of side ribs makes is amazing even though the total weight saving can't be more than 100 grams or so.
He feared that the absence of ribs would make the barrels ring like a bell when fired. That did not happen.
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Sidelock
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A barrel without ribs is only slightly more desirable than one with ported barrels. Ugly and just something to catch weeds in the field.
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Sidelock
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Sidelock
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A barrel without ribs is only slightly more desirable than one with ported barrels. Ugly and just something to catch weeds in the field. Yes, and we all know how high the weeds are on most trap ranges.
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A barrel without ribs is only slightly more desirable than one with ported barrels. Ugly and just something to catch weeds in the field. Yes, and we all know how high the weeds are on most trap ranges. Some folks on this board can not read..... decided to get a game model.
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Sidelock
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I have always maitained that a gun with sleeved barrels is worth a lot more than a gun with scrap barrels .
Down to the individual as to whether they want one or not ,same as with all else .
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