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AIN'T MUCH A MAN CAN'T FIX WITH SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A THIRTY OUGHT SIX
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Nice gun looks to have intercepting sears.
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This is a post war gun( Dec 195?), so would have post war model. Mike
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Ah, that's a 1954(December) Sauer Modell >>Kim<< offering. By 1958/1959 it was to be the staple workhorse platform in 16 & 20 bore. 12 bore was available in 1958 and by 1959 the 12 bore was an option warranting an extra fee & I think it may have been equipped with ejectors & a single trigger. Typically though, post WWII Sauers had the Modell Nr. stamped on the aft lug? For now I have no idea how the Sauer Modell Nr. >>Kim<< / >>Sauer Kim<< acquired its name but it was an effort to utilize the Kerner - Anson overhanging scear platform of the Sauer Modell Nr. 8(pre WWII or post WWII??) and lower the cost by eliminating the Greener Crossbolt & sideclips. At the time, they gave that although they had eliminated the Greener Crossbolt that they had maintained the same strength / lockup by beefing up the underlugs???? They stated that the Brits had abandoned the Greener Crossbolt & they wished to follow suit.
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In the late 1950s it was advertised for around $160 U.S. of A.
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quote=ellenbr]Ah, that's a 1954(December) Sauer Modell >>Kim<< offering. By 1958/1959 it was to be the staple workhorse
So I am trying to ID it for the estate of a deceased friend . I am trying to ID it in the Blue Book to get an estimated value Is it a Model 60 ? If I cannot positively ID it in the Blue Book I need some kind of estimated value. Thank you, Dale
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Hum, not sure on any accounts. The >>Sauer Kim<< was a U.S. of A. designation and if it was an inland German offering, it would have been a >>Sauer Standard Doppelflinte Modell Nr. 5/5<<. But it is not a Modell Nr. 60. I don't know that the Bluebook would address the >>Sauer Kim<< nor the >>Sauer Standard Doppelflinte Modell Nr. 5/5<<. One would just have to search on the World Wide Webb and find comps.
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For comparable model pricing check out this site. Lots of post war Sauers and Simpsons, coming from the same factory. Don't forget prices are Canadian. https://www.tradeexcanada.com/produits/73
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And I'm not sure why exactly, but the Germans really knock that >>Spezial Laufstahl Bochumer Verein<< steel stating that it was a inferior steel?
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Very early post war Sauers were made in the old factory in Suhl. The Sauer trademark had moved to Eckernforde(?) by the time the pictured gun was made( note the proof house "house mark". After the move, there was all new machinery and all new designs. New parts didn't work with prewar guns and the model numbers didn't match the new model names. After the move, Fortuna was made on the old machinery. Mike
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