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 I made this witches brew Sla'cum about 10 years ago per a Double Gun recipe. The blueish tint is from Cobalt drier all I recall is beeswax, artist grade linseed and turpentine and the cobalt drier.
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On a sanded in finish it fills faster, top coats quicker and works easier.
I hope I'm not asking for you to give away your trade secrets, but would you describe your process a little more? Do you use, let's call it a "linseed oil based finish" to avoid controversy, from start to finish? Or to you top coat with something else?
Jim
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Woodreaux, If you doing a new stock or a total refinish and starting with a bare sanded uo stock. Wet sand with 150 and TL till the TL and wood dust makes a slurry. Rub the slurry into the wood then wipe off excess with a paper towel. Stay away from checkering, if finish or slurry gets in checkering scrub it out with a tooth brush. Leave it overnight. Repeat with 220 grit. Leave overnight. From here on it depends what you are trying to accomplish . If 220 is appropriate for the gun and the level of fill looks correct your done filling. If not continue until you have it where you want. if I want to stain I do it now with a spirit stain. Then top coat with TL. I apply with fingers and hands spreading it even and thin. Let sit over night. Repeat until you are happy. After the 1st top coat what you see when applying is what it will look like when it drys. A Field grade gun can be done start to finish in 3 to 5 days.
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Thanks Mark, that is a beautiful gun and refinish. I appreciate your sharing your method. Speaking to the concerns of others here regarding the function of that finish, would you change anything for a waterfowling piece or a gun that might be particularly exposed to the elements?
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On guns that are going to see a lot of weather I would give a couple of extra top coats
My personal hunting guns are top coated with TL and have seen rain more than once.
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Woodreaux, If you doing a new stock or a total refinish and starting with a bare sanded uo stock. Wet sand with 150 and TL till the TL and wood dust makes a slurry. Rub the slurry into the wood then wipe off excess with a paper towel. Stay away from checkering, if finish or slurry gets in checkering scrub it out with a tooth brush. Leave it overnight. Repeat with 220 grit. Leave overnight. From here on it depends what you are trying to accomplish . If 220 is appropriate for the gun and the level of fill looks correct your done filling. If not continue until you have it where you want. if I want to stain I do it now with a spirit stain. Then top coat with TL. I apply with fingers and hands spreading it even and thin. Let sit over night. Repeat until you are happy. After the 1st top coat what you see when applying is what it will look like when it drys. A Field grade gun can be done start to finish in 3 to 5 days. Would you stain the wood first, before rubbing oil in and filling pores? Also what do you mean by "spirit stain"?
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Battle, I stain after filling and before top coating .
A solvent based dye type of stain like TL stain or Behlens Solar-Lux. As apposed to an oil based pigment stain like Minwax or a lot of the hardware store stuff.
I didn't invent this method. Lots of custom stock makers and gun makers use it.
As with most stuff in gunsmithing there are lots of ways to do things. If you get results that you are happy with thats what is important
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